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Stskeeps 2009-08-04 17:41

'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
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Original post:

I was thinking a bit about the community SSU to Diablo and how to go about it. Obviously we have some community-relevant fixes to the application manager and some other things that can be useful.

But what I'm wondering about - if you had a chance to select one favourite Fixed in Fremantle bug fixed in the open source packages and have this backported to be fixed in a community SSU, which would you take - and why?

EDIT: Please note the bugs.maemo.org bug numbers in question too. :)

zerojay 2009-08-04 17:42

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
And the list of 'Fixed in Freemantle' bugs is...where?

sjgadsby 2009-08-04 17:48

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 308834)
And the list of 'Fixed in Freemantle' bugs is...where?

The size of the list is going to depend upon what exactly you want to lump in under the "Fixed in Fremantle" header, but I have the results of a quick search.

(By the way, Zerojay, it's "Fremantle", not "Freemantle". It's a small thing, but the extra "e" you include doesn't jive with your focus on text perfection.)

Stskeeps 2009-08-04 17:49

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 308834)
And the list of 'Fixed in Freemantle' bugs is...where?

https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?t...solution=FIXED is also a possibility.

zerojay 2009-08-04 17:52

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 308836)
(By the way, Zerojay, it's "Fremantle", not "Freemantle". It's a small thing, but the extra "e" you include doesn't jive with your focus on text perfection.)

I blame all the times I've had to use the word "freemasons" over the last two months. ;/

tso 2009-08-04 18:00

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 308832)
But what I'm wondering about - if you had a chance to select one favourite Fixed in Fremantle bug fixed in the open source packages and have this backported to be fixed in a community SSU, which would you take - and why?

sadly, its not so much a fix as a total rewrite. basically, what irks me the most is that until diablo, one could trigger a network access while in offline mode, say yes on the dialog, and have wifi connect to a saved hotspot automatically...

since diablo, it instead claims that it cant find any saved hotspots, and i have the impression the nokia devs know where the bug is, but as the networking system have been fully replaced for fremantle, there will never be a fix...

sachin007 2009-08-04 18:03

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
A2DP please!

Stskeeps 2009-08-04 18:07

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 308839)
sadly, its not so much a fix as a total rewrite. basically, what irks me the most is that until diablo, one could trigger a network access while in offline mode, say yes on the dialog, and have wifi connect to a saved hotspot automatically...

since diablo, it instead claims that it cant find any saved hotspots, and i have the impression the nokia devs know where the bug is, but as the networking system have been fully replaced for fremantle, there will never be a fix...

AFAIK we're still on icd and libconic. Correct me if I'm wrong.

buurmas 2009-08-04 18:20

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Does upgrading the Flash player count? If so, I think that would get my vote. There are MicroB bugs that bother me, but then I just use Tear instead.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 308832)
one favourite Fixed in Fremantle bug fixed in the open source packages

Oops -- it probably doesn't count. Apologies.

gazza_d 2009-08-04 19:07

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Even though it's not open, the fix which unbreaks metalayer-crawled since the last SSU would be a good thing to add, especially if we can add an option to start/stop the thing at will.

Otherwise just all the simple stuff which is easy to fix. I would sooner see the efforts put into bringing Mer up to the level where it can replace Maemo, and run all the new versions of apps like Gpodder, and Mauku.

Spending a lot of time fixing diablo, doesn't change the fact that it's now a dead end, and that the majority of new development is understandably going to be for Fremantle.

Being able to provide access to all or most of those apps on the current hardware would seem to me to be the best use of the resources available.

wklink 2009-08-04 19:11

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 308840)
A2DP please!

+AVRCP. A2DP can be made to work--with limits--but AVRCP doesn't work at all.

Saturn 2009-08-04 22:47

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Lock applets in desktop:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639

Saturn 2009-08-04 22:49

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
clock with 12/24h selection!!
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303

Saturn 2009-08-04 22:51

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
more contacts number!! yuppie!
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1034

Jaffa 2009-08-05 00:23

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
#2639 is already included in Mer.

#303 primarily affects Nokia's closed-source Clock application (if it was open source, I'd've fixed it 4 years ago!)

#1034 is - I think - in the closed source UI again.

FRZ 2009-08-05 00:58

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
I always wondered why the camera app didn't come pre-installed.

sjgadsby 2009-08-05 01:10

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FRZ (Post 308941)
I always wondered why the camera app didn't come pre-installed.

/usr/bin/camera
There's just no entry in the application menu out of the box.

lma 2009-08-05 01:49

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Low hanging fruit (stuff that could be packaged right now):

2639 Home view needs to have an option to lock desktop applets into place
3455 telepathy-gabble deadlooping
3951 Incompatible quote handling in Busybox xargs (FEATURE_XARGS_SUPPORT_QUOTES disabled?)
3957 Busybox does not support "ls -Q" which some scripts need
3968 grep -r can output corrupt data in error message if file cannot be read
4079 busybox df does not handle root filesystem on command line
4119 digest-uri omits the serv-name part causing authentication failure when host != serv-name
4174 shell history file is overwritten after every command
4225 The x11vnc does not work on some areas of the screen
4803 Modest sends empty ENABLE command when IMAP server advertises ENABLE but not CONDSTORE or QRESYNC capabilities

Some stuff that needs more investigation:

2863 Allow setting of MTU per access point
3793 Segmentation fault when ossofilemanager access SMB shares
3885 RSS Reader Fails to Read HTTPS RSS Webpages
4248 Enable features in Busybox to increase its tools GNU/Debian compatibility

migs 2009-08-05 02:16

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
The most annoying bug for me is the no-flip camera bug on the N800

lma 2009-08-05 03:17

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 308839)
since diablo, it instead claims that it cant find any saved hotspots

I think there was a bug for that but I can't find it now - IIRC that happens if you restore the access points from a pre-diablo backup.

tso 2009-08-05 03:53

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 308963)
I think there was a bug for that but I can't find it now - IIRC that happens if you restore the access points from a pre-diablo backup.

clearing house and rebuilding did not make it go away...

tso 2009-08-05 04:00

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3310

this looks like the bug, tho i could have sworn it was claimed fixed in fremantle because it had a reworked networking system...

FRZ 2009-08-05 04:16

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
That annoying charging screen that doesn't let me use the device while charging. Of course that doesn't happen in Mer.

tso 2009-08-05 04:25

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FRZ (Post 308969)
That annoying charging screen that doesn't let me use the device while charging. Of course that doesn't happen in Mer.

press power and it should boot to the desktop...

FRZ 2009-08-05 05:19

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 308972)
press power and it should boot to the desktop...

Alright, I just tested it and it worked, so this problem only happens with powerlunch then. When I had that installed, pressing the power button while charging would only brought up the powerlunch menu.

danramos 2009-08-05 06:15

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Oh God.. this thread is making me VERY, VERY drunk with EVERY mention of 'fixed in Fremantle'

...aw crap, now I did it. (drink!)

tso 2009-08-05 08:38

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FRZ (Post 308979)
Alright, I just tested it and it worked, so this problem only happens with powerlunch then. When I had that installed, pressing the power button while charging would only brought up the powerlunch menu.

may i ask what your using powerlaunch for? And yes, i recall that powerlaunch has such a issue, as i have ranted about it myself at one time...

tso 2009-08-05 08:39

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 308983)
Oh God.. this thread is making me VERY, VERY drunk with EVERY mention of 'fixed in Fremantle'

...aw crap, now I did it. (drink!)

cheers, campai, and all those other words for the same action ;)

Tomaszd 2009-08-08 00:22

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
A2DP with AVRCP for me would be a great addition, but it does require a kernel patch to fix stability issues. This patch, along with a few FiF patches from bugzilla are in Mer currently.

When it comes to bugs... locking the applets in place would be nice.

It would also be great if the microb browser got an update. It's running alpha code.

Snoshrk 2009-08-10 15:07

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomaszd (Post 309715)

When it comes to bugs... locking the applets in place would be nice.
.

Step by step (even for a linux n00b like me)

Seems to work as advertised :D

tso 2009-08-10 15:17

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
only that it has to be set again on each reboot...

Saturn 2009-08-13 23:08

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 310449)
only that it has to be set again on each reboot...

Hi, if you use the latest files from Qwerty (see here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1046) the setting is persistent.

HIH and sorry for the change of subject.

tso 2009-08-14 08:12

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 311630)
Hi, if you use the latest files from Qwerty (see here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1046) the setting is persistent.

HIH and sorry for the change of subject.

these where not linked in the "howto"-thread then?

Saturn 2009-08-14 18:20

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 311670)
these where not linked in the "howto"-thread then?

I think not. qwerty is too quick for a thread. ;)
If I remember correctly even the option was a little different. You could check from the screenshots.

Again, sorry to the OP.

tso 2009-08-28 18:13

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
so, now that the N900 cat is out of the bag, it would be nice to get a official go ahead from nokia to let the community do SSUs for diablo...

zerojay 2009-08-28 18:16

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 317386)
so, now that the N900 cat is out of the bag, it would be nice to get a official go ahead from nokia to let the community do SSUs for diablo...

That probably won't ever be happening. Nokia would be scared to death at the thought of something the community does in an SSU killing or forcing a tablet reflash.

allnameswereout 2009-08-28 18:26

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 317386)
so, now that the N900 cat is out of the bag, it would be nice to get a official go ahead from nokia to let the community do SSUs for diablo...

There is big difference between community/3rd party/unofficial support and official support by manufacturer. They shouldn't be mixed.

qgil 2009-08-28 20:23

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Diablo going forward with community support vs Fremantle backported to the N8*0 via Mer. Has thre beeen discussion and conclusion about which is the way preferred by the community?

SD69 2009-08-28 20:30

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 317512)
Diablo going forward with community support vs Fremantle backported to the N8*0 via Mer. Has thre beeen discussion and conclusion about which is the way preferred by the community?

Why do you imply they are mutually exclusive? And let's not forget Mer has other goals besides backporting Fremantle to N8x0.

pelago 2009-08-28 20:42

Re: 'Fixed in Fremantle' and Diablo community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 317512)
Diablo going forward with community support vs Fremantle backported to the N8*0 via Mer. Has thre beeen discussion and conclusion about which is the way preferred by the community?

Call me greedy, but it would be nice to have a choice of both. Diablo+community SSUs for those who aren't ready to make the jump to a new UI/platform and 'just' want a fixed Diablo, and Fremantle via Mer for those who want the shiny and like living dangerously.


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