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www.rzr.online.fr 2012-07-07 09:59

JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones together with the #N9 core professionals and #MeeGo community alumni.

http://identi.ca/tag/jolla

https://twitter.com/jollamobile

http://jollamobile.com/# upcoming?

{
MeeGo Smartphones and Operating System Find a New Life in Jolla Ltd.
Jolla Ltd. is an independent Finland based smartphone product company which
continues the excellent work that Nokia started with MeeGo. The Jolla team is
formed by directors and core professionals from Nokia’s MeeGo N9 organisation,
together with some of the best minds working on MeeGo in the communities.
Jussi Hurmola, CEO Jolla Ltd.: “Nokia created something wonderful – the world’s
best smartphone product. It deserves to be continued, and we will do that together
with all the bright and gifted people contributing to the MeeGo success story.”
Jolla Ltd. will design, develop and sell new MeeGo based smartphones. Together
with international private investors and partners, a new smartphone using this
MeeGo based OS will be revealed later this year.
Jolla Ltd. has been developing a new smartphone product and the OS since the end
of 2011. The OS has evolved from MeeGo OS using Mer Core and Qt with Jolla
technology including its own brand new UI.
}

Suspense Suspense Suspense

What do you expect ? Any predictions ?

Official infos :

* http://www.intomobile.com/2012/07/11...ext-available/
* http://ec.libsyn.com/p/0/5/0/050203b...si_Hurmola.mp3


Some ramdom unofficial facts :

* It will be based on upstream projects : merproject core, qt and hopefully GNU/Linux floss meego (the distro is rpm based) ...

* target devices will be upcoming hardware (nokia ones are unsupported officially at least) ...

* We are focusing on smartphones first.

* http://www.esphoneblog.com/2012/07/1...chain-d-phone/

* http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85392# #jollaspec

* http://followingjolla.blogspot.fi/20...icial-faq.html


what about creating a wiki page on this project ?

mikecomputing 2012-07-07 10:07

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this is the fight back!!!

I dont expect any superduper highend mobile but atleast something for the community. I hope to see something fast and not in a year. Provlem is with similar projects they often not have a chance to RELEASE somehing at the end just take vivaldi tablet as one cool project but where is the device:(

Kangal 2012-07-07 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1233290)
this is the fight back!!!

I dont expect any superduper highend mobile but atleast something for the community. I hope to see something fast and not in a year. Provlem is with similar projects they often not have a chance to RELEASE somehing at the end just take vivaldi tablet as one cool project but where is the device:(

If they are trying to make a tablet (4in-10in)... this could be ambitious.
I think they should use a current product and expand on it, something like the Ainol Novo7 Elf2 would make the prime kickstarter:
~ $99
- Decent quality 1024x600 LCD
- 1.4GHz Dual-Cortex A9 (40nm)
- Mali-400 (dualcore gpu)
- 1GB DDR3 RAM
- 16GB NAND, microSD, microHDMI, microUSB-HOST
- Wifi bgn, BT, 2MP camera, gyro, speaker, mic, headset
- 3,700mAh (with dedicated charge port)

Build on top of something like that, like Vivaldi Tablet, and actually roll out firmware/devices to developers.
Perhaps merge efforts with the teams from Vivaldi, MeeGo-Veterans and ARMopenSUSE.

AlphaX2 2012-07-07 10:29

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This is just awesome - I should ask someone to kick me, to be sure that I am not dreaming! :D

I hope the community can help them a lot, that WE are asked, involved, that it will be a (bit) community driven project! I wish them so much, luck and success! I'll do what ever is possible to support this fantastic idea/project/company! :)

AlphaX2

ibrakalifa 2012-07-07 10:29

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meego or harmattan? But its nice nice nice and damn cool news, i hope they made another MeeGo with latest hardware, :D

www.rzr.online.fr 2012-07-07 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1233295)
meego or harmattan? But its nice nice nice and damn cool news, i hope they made another MeeGo with latest hardware, :D

merproject yes the rpm based one ! for new devices

D.Cent 2012-07-07 10:39

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If they succeed, they will kick Nokia in the butt! :D

lma 2012-07-07 10:56

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Sounds a bit too phone-oriented for my taste, but if they can find the courage to respect my freedom (no aegis or other tivoization rubish) and privacy I'll probably give them money anyway.

don_falcone 2012-07-07 10:59

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Quote:

Company Size 51-200 employees
This seems doable; stay tuned. I would support something from Europe.

vitaminj 2012-07-07 11:01

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Hopefully it's Mer, Qt 5 and a fantastic UI that's as close to N9 Swipe as they can get away with (or license?).

I hope that they have graphic and industrial designers that will create something as groundbreaking and stand-out as the N9 that will elevate them from device(s?) that developers will love to something that will entice average consumers as well.

And hopefully keep a developer story similar enough to N9/Symbian/BB10 to get some cross-pollination of Qt apps?

nieldk 2012-07-07 11:14

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Well, looks like it aint for N9XX

"@joaoluisc To clarify, we are not making releases for N9 and N950 as those are Nokia's products."

mikecomputing 2012-07-07 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1233312)
Well, looks like it aint for N9XX

"@joaoluisc To clarify, we are not making releases for N9 and N950 as those are Nokia's products."

Ofcourse not. Nokia still has copyright on n9

But still this new company is intresting :)

mikecomputing 2012-07-07 11:22

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Question is who are the investors in this new company?

ajalkane 2012-07-07 11:27

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This is exciting! Hopefully something concrete comes up.

lma 2012-07-07 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1233312)
Well, looks like it aint for N9XX

A good thing IMO. Why should they hinder themselves by trying to support dead products that no one will (or can) ever manufacture again?

tissot 2012-07-07 11:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1233319)
Question is who are the investors in this new company?

That's what i as thinking, international investors said Linkedin page.

I would guess those old Nokia employees aren't exactly poor, but it still needs HUGE amounts of cash as they are planning to do the whole thing from software to hardware.


So excited to see what comes out of this!

vitaminj 2012-07-07 11:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1233319)
Question is who are the investors in this new company?

If they had a kickstarter or similar, I bet they could hoover up an embarrassing amount of cash from the members of this forum!

Estel 2012-07-07 11:37

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It's good news, for sure. I'm just wondering, if they insist on continuing Meego as per se (i.e. where Nokia left it), or shifting to Mer?

Of course, I hope for the latter. THAT would be something exciting.

/Estel

MINKIN2 2012-07-07 11:43

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From the Twitter linked...

We continue with open source #MeeGo , and have additional assets on top to make products

Would it not be an absolute hoot if this was Plan B?

vitaminj 2012-07-07 11:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1233326)
It's good news, for sure. I'm just wondering, if they insist on continuing Meego as per se (i.e. where Nokia left it), or shifting to Mer?
Of course, I hope for the latter. THAT would be something exciting.

Good news!
https://twitter.com/JollaMobile/stat...49230748217345
Also Carsten Munk seems to be on the books

Stskeeps 2012-07-07 11:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1233326)
It's good news, for sure. I'm just wondering, if they insist on continuing Meego as per se (i.e. where Nokia left it), or shifting to Mer?

Of course, I hope for the latter. THAT would be something exciting.

/Estel

From twitter:

Tom Swindell ‏@ThomasSwindell
@JollaMobile will you guys be continuing along a similar stack to Nokia's Harmattan, or can we expect a Mer based MeeGo like platform?

1h Jolla ‏@JollaMobile
@ThomasSwindell Good question, thanks. Latter. ‪#merproject‬ rocks!

www.rzr.online.fr 2012-07-07 11:46

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what makes you think nokia is not involved into the project ? i am sure they have a spinoff program that could benefit to both side ?

I'd be suprised that nokia is not anymore implied technically and financially related projects such as qt or linux ...

btw if nokia becomes an ODM (this is what ms wants them to be right?) then they can provide any devices for any platform integrators ... this is making sense ... else who will produce those items ? probaly an asian company such as htc ? or other vendors from china ?

So far I am just speculating ...

Estel 2012-07-07 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1233334)
From twitter:

Tom Swindell ‏@ThomasSwindell
@JollaMobile will you guys be continuing along a similar stack to Nokia's Harmattan, or can we expect a Mer based MeeGo like platform?

1h Jolla ‏@JollaMobile
@ThomasSwindell Good question, thanks. Latter. ‪#merproject‬ rocks!

It took me a while to properly parse answer, but it really rox! Stskeeps, You bastard, I'm sure You knew about it for weeks already :)

Personally, I can't wait to see what they're cookin'.

http://www.matthewratzloff.com/blog/...e-my-money.jpg

/Estel

specc 2012-07-07 11:51

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If this involves using qt as one main building block, I may even donate. If not, good luck and goodbye.

ujwalsoni 2012-07-07 11:52

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I swear I had a similar idea a few months ago..it makes great sense for Nokia to set up another house for continuing MeeGo's legacy...

Only issue is..will Jolla have hardware support from Nokia in any way? Or do they have substantial experience in sourcing good hardware? Cause the hardware is truly integral to the MeeGo experience...

The initial impression here is that this could very well be a covert move by Nokia (or someone in Nokia) to make good on 'Plan B'

Stskeeps 2012-07-07 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by specc (Post 1233339)
If this involves using qt as one main building block, I may even donate. If not, good luck and goodbye.

Merproject and Qt are a key building block.

Estel 2012-07-07 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1233340)
I swear I had a similar idea a few months ago..it makes great sense for Nokia to set up another house for continuing MeeGo's legacy...

Only issue is..will Jolla have hardware support from Nokia in any way? Or do they have substantial experience in sourcing good hardware? Cause the hardware is truly integral to the MeeGo experience...

The initial impression here is that this could very well be a covert move by Nokia (or someone in Nokia) to make good on 'Plan B'

Are You kidding? Nokia just fired those people. I'm glad that they've formed something like that, instead of moving into android development. I don't expect any charity from Nokia here, lol - now they're competitors.

/Estel

mariusmssj 2012-07-07 12:01

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To make this simple for everyone. They will not make any updates for N9 as it's a Nokia product but they will:

Create MeeGo based devices!!!

ujwalsoni 2012-07-07 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1233342)
Are You kidding? Nokia just fired those people. I'm glad that they've formed something like that, instead of moving into android development. I don't expect any charity from Nokia here, lol - now they're competitors.

/Estel

What I'm suggesting is that it's a planned move by Nokia. Certainly, a lot of companies out there would want to snap up the MeeGo team.. so it's suspicious that they go for their own outfit with dubious profit-making capability rather than join some big corporation..

Unless I see Nokia taking action against these guys..I'm gonna assume that there's something fishy..

timoph 2012-07-07 12:03

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wearing my Mer project t-shirt with more pride than usual today.

Estel 2012-07-07 12:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ujwalsoni (Post 1233346)
What I'm suggesting is that it's a planned move by Nokia. Certainly, a lot of companies out there would want to snap up the MeeGo team.. so it's suspicious that they go for their own outfit with dubious profit-making capability rather than join some big corporation..

Unless I see Nokia taking action against these guys..I'm gonna assume that there's something fishy..

I would rather expect Nokia trying to sink them down. Suggesting, that it's planned move by Nokia, is little bit of disrespect for those brave people, IMO.

/Estel

mariusmssj 2012-07-07 12:08

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I wish these guys best of luck and i will definitely going to buy a phone they make :D

dietyyli 2012-07-07 12:15

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Jolla oy

jollamobile.fi domain granted 25.10.2011

edit. sorry, here the page in english Jolla oy

mariusmssj 2012-07-07 12:24

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I wonder who's going to be their hardware manufacturer

Zoxir 2012-07-07 12:40

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My heart says yes my mind says BS. Even if they manage to have a device to sell it will hardly make it out of the Scandinavian countries. At best they will be bought by some bigger player and once again we will be left wondering what it could have been.

specc 2012-07-07 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1233350)
I would rather expect Nokia trying to sink them down. Suggesting, that it's planned move by Nokia, is little bit of disrespect for those brave people, IMO.

/Estel

It's no disrespect. Nokia may have fired then, but this doesn't mean Nokia want to cut all ties. It's better to have friends than enemies (trololo :) )

But who knows, lots of things are done in the heat of the moment, and this may be such a thing.

mariusmssj 2012-07-07 12:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1233368)
My heart says yes my mind says BS. Even if they manage to have a device to sell it will hardly make it out of the Scandinavian countries. At best they will be bought by some bigger player and once again we will be left wondering what it could have been.

what about raspberry pi?? it also began with huge doubts many thought it will never come out and look at it now! they can barely keep up with demand.

if It's anything near what MeeGo on N9 is and the price is right, there will be a demand for it

benny1967 2012-07-07 13:02

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I don't even expect or demand high-end hardware or anything that's ahead of the market feature-wise. All I want is an open system that's not tied to a specific "cloud", to a specific "ecosystem", to a specific PC-client necessary for syncing,.... I want a mobile PC for my pockets, very much like the N900 or the non-phone Maemo devices were. Forget UI and performance. Give me freedom.

mikecomputing 2012-07-07 13:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1233368)
My heart says yes my mind says BS. Even if they manage to have a device to sell it will hardly make it out of the Scandinavian countries. At best they will be bought by some bigger player and once again we will be left wondering what it could have been.

jolla is finish company so if they come up with something they should definitivly try release it in scandinavia first. Sweden loves new stuff to test.

but then again how far are they coming up with something? Linkedin says company is two months old. And this may take time before they eeven can show an alphadevice to be honest. It very easy start companys but realese your vision is alot harder.

but for sure I support those people cause this is what europeans needs :) we cant all work for google or microsoft ;)

Lumiaman 2012-07-07 13:05

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i second the theory that Nokia is an investor in this venture. It makes sense to do disruptions outside of your own house and let the team have creativity and resources that may have been hijacked by Symbian group in the past.


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