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[Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

ModRana is a flexible navigation system, so:

HOW DOES IT LOOK ?
http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/projekty/gps_n...images/gui.png
Interface explained

http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/projekty/gps_n.../main_menu.png
Main menu

http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/projekty/gps_n...es/overlay.png
Map overlay + route + POI search results

http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/projekty/gps_n...te_profile.png
Tracklog elevation profile

WHAT DOES IT DO ? :)

GUI
-> big, finger friendly buttons
-> automatic landscape/portrait rotation
map display
-> from map tiles
-> semi-transparent layer-over-layer overlay is supported
-> map scaling (2X, 4X)
-> automatic map rotation
tile download
-> automatic (can be turned off)
batch tile download
-> current area, area currently shown on map, area around a tracklog
-> radius and zoomlevel range can be set
-> fully threaded, can be run in background, completion is signalized by a notification
tile storage
-> compatible with TangoGPS
-> optional sqlite tile storage (massive space savings)
online routing
-> using Google Directions
-> Point2Point, Adress2Address, to POI, Combined
-> detailed route info
-> result can be saved as a GPX tracklog
-> multilingual (English, Czech, Russian, Chinese, Spanish, German, ...)
Turn-by-turn navigation with voice directions
-> turn description shown per-turn with big friendly letters
-> navigation info box can by hidden into a button
-> voice directions work even when the screen is off
-> voice output can be turned off
-> power-users can edit voice parameters using the "manual" mode
tracklogs
-> in GPX format
-> optimized track display
-> route elevation profile
-> elevation data download from Geonames
track logging
-> configurable
-> statistics
-> directly to GPX
online POI search
-> using Google Local Search
-> search for ATMs, Pizza, WiFi, Landmarks, EV charging stations, etc.
-> addresses and telephone numbers for results
-> around current position, live distance display
-> custom query support
POI
-> you can save as a POI:
* your current position
* a point on the map
* local search results
* manually entered coordinates
-> easily accessible routing from current position to POI
-> easy stored POI modification
-> categories
-> CSV export
configurable UI
-> configurations are per mode (bike,car,bus,walking,train,etc.)
-> size and position of all UI elements can be customized
-> using the main config file
-> interactive configuration <- PLANED
information widgets
-> semi transparent
-> time, speed, stats, coordinates, route profile, distance remaining, etc.
-> also per mode
-> same config
-> also should be interactively configurable in the future

planed:
* tile update
-> all, by last changed server metadata
* interactive configuration of gui and widgets
* more :)

TWEAKS

voice output over music by Zod

HOW TO INSTALL IT ?

NOTE: map tiles are downloaded to: /home/user/MyDocs/.maps/ - this folder is shared with other navigation apps

modRana is now available in Extras-devel!

Installing through the application manager:

go to the Location & navigation section in application manager and select modrana

OR

Installing from the command line:
as root run:

Code:

apt-get install modrana

current version: 0.43.3

modRana for other platforms
Installation package for MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan on the Nokia N9 and N950
Installation package for Nemo Mobile
SHR @ Neo FreeRunner

Changelog:

Code:

=== * modRana V0.43 * ===

released: 14.08.2013



* Sun Sep 29 2013 Martin Kolman - 0.43.3

- don't crash if a filesystem path can't be created

- fix online routing not respecting route parameters

 - current mode is now correctly taken into account

 - "avoid highways" and "avoid toll roads" works correctly again

- convert Wikipedia search to the new asynchronous provider framework

- convert local search to the new asynchronous provider framework

- address, Wikipedia and local search wait for Internet connectivity

 - and enable it if needed

- local search also waits for GPS, if needed

 - and will enable it, provided it is not turned of in options

- local search now initializes GPS and Internet in parallel

 - this should speed up local search triggered from CLI

 - provided GPS and Internet is not yet initialized when triggered

- CLI search debugging option

 - disables stdout suppression

- add (hopefully) cross platform connectivity checking

- the "search" button in the Fremantle app menu on the N900 now goes to the main search page

- the modRana standard output now contains current Python version during startup

 - for easier debugging of Python version specific issues

- fix routing to local search results

- make "clear results" work for Address and Wikipedia search results

- make "clear all" in the main search menu clear all results

- tile storage type can now be selected in the QML GUI

 - in Options->Map

- add a directions fix from Geoff Kuenning - thanks! :)



* Tue Sep 10 2013 Martin Kolman - 0.43.2

- fix the annoying "Xlib: unexpected async reply" error

 - thanks to Geoff Kuening for helping to find the root cause ! :)

- fix navigation messages when using Monav offline routing

 - no more "None to First Street" :)

- fix route OSD menu

- reverse geocoding now uses Nominatim instead of Google

- start and destination address display takes aspect ratio into account



* Wed Aug 14 2013 Martin Kolman - 0.43.1

- address search now works again in GTK GUI

- the QML GUI now supports address search

- the address search service was switched from Google to Nominatim

- the QML GUI should now handle high-DPI screens properly

- the design of the QML GUI was improved in some places to be more consistent

- multipple background worker threads can be now cancelled individually

- modRana now uses 4 space indentation :)



=== * modRana V0.42 * ===

released: 13.07.2013



* Sat Jul 13 2013 Martin Kolman - 0.42.1

- add batch tile redownload & update

 - accessible from the "Edit" submenu in batch dl menu

 - redownload ON -> download all tiles, even when locally available

 - redownload OFF (default) -> download only tiles that are not locally available

 - redownload update -> download only tiles that ARE locally available

- add 32bit (i386) Monav routing server binary by jperon - Thanks !

 - this should make offline routing on 32bit x86 machines possible

- preliminary support for high DPI screens in QML GUI

- fix online routing not respecting directions language

- fix tracebacks with some routes from Monav offline routing



=== * modRana V0.41 * ===

released: 04.05.2013



* Thu May 09 2013 Martin Kolman - 0.41.2

- fix modRana not showing monav routing data packs

- if map folder path is redirected by config file option, the monav routing data folder is also using the redirected path

- new option for disabling (almost) all animations in QML GUI

 - the option is in Options->UI

 - when enabled, page switching becomes ridiculously fast, even on the N900 :)

 - dialog animations are still ON, as there doesn't seem to be a clear way of switching them OFF



* Sat May 04 2013 Martin Kolman - 0.41.1

- modRana is now Python 3 compatible

 - Python 2.5 compatibility was of course preserved

 - as a result, modRana still works just fine with Python 2.5 on the N900

 - Python 3 compatibility should enable packaging modRana for BlackBerry 10

- Android compatibility

 - modRana with the QML GUI now works on Android

 - Android device module has been added

 - installable APKs are available

 - APK generation script was added to the modRana packaging scripts

 - map data are stored in /sdcard/modrana/maps

- QML GUI improvements

 - theme switching support

 - night theme for the QML GUI

 - the menu button can now show current mode, as in GTK GUI

 - thanks to Wikiwide for the idea & icons ! :)

 - finally some buttons in Options (related to theme switching & menu icon configuration)

 - fixed centering to the middle of the Atlantic at startup (center on Brno instead :) )

 - fixed main map icon now shows only one map layer

- automatic tile downloading in GTK GUI should now be faster due to connection reuse provided by Urllib 3

- new POI icon

- various fixes

complete changelog

MORE INFO ? => PROJECT WIKI:
http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/trac/gps_navig...ki/WikiStartEN

BUGS, IDEAS, FEEDBACK ?
add a ticket
contact the developer

I'm a developer and want to submit a patch !
Fork modRana on github, add your modifications and send me a pull request - as easy as that ! :) Classic methods (patch-in-email, etc.) are of course also accepted. :)

I love modRana ! Where can i donate ?

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PayPal, Flatter & Bitcoin are available for your donations, thanks in advance ! :)

So, what do you think ? :)

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Yeah luks good.. a bit more closer to a stand alone gps.. will try it out

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Looks good from the screens and function list. Will check it out now.

On running the application I get:
"install python-location package to enable GPS"

What do I need to do to install that package?

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

The list of features is amazing! Will have to try this out at some point.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazosbourne (Post 758687)

Looks good from the screens and function list. Will check it out now.

On running the application I get:
"install python-location package to enable GPS"

What do I need to do to install that package?

open xterm -> type 'sudo apt-get install python-location" without the quotes

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

I love the features, but it's not entirely stable. I can't play with it for more than a few mins before it becomes completely unresponsive. I've had it crash multiple times, and sometimes the display output just becomes a solid gray screen. I'm not yet ready to give up on this yet. I hope development continues. Despite its problems, it's still one of the best navigation apps I've tested on my n900. My biggest complaint actually isn't the stability though, it's the fact that it doesn't retain my settings when I make changes in the options menu.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

How long until you have put it in extras?

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

This has great promise and indeed is pretty good already. UI is fairly intuitive. No stability issues so far for me. I do get the grey screen issue with google satellite as the designated map.
Good job. Are you going to get this in extras-testing etc, what are your development plans, licence etc.
BTW: in track logging in would be nice to be able to log a personal POI.
HA

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvogt (Post 758706)

I love the features, but it's not entirely stable. I can't play with it for more than a few mins before it becomes completely unresponsive. I've had it crash multiple times,

Well, its in active development so its not entirely stable yet. I will fix every bug and crash I can find.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvogt (Post 758706)

and sometimes the display output just becomes a solid gray screen.

Well, this usually means that tiles for this area are not available.
Usually because:

there are no tiles for this zoomlevel (some areas have more zoomlevels that others)
unavailable internet connectivity
the tileserver is unavailable

But if the whole GUI goes gray (no buttons, no position indicator, no menus), then there is something in the drawing pipeline, I should fix. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvogt (Post 758706)

I'm not yet ready to give up on this yet. I hope development continues. Despite its problems, it's still one of the best navigation apps I've tested on my n900.

Well, thanks. :) I have a pretty long feature list to yet to implement, this release is basically an entry to the Maemo coding competition, more releases will follow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvogt (Post 758706)

My biggest complaint actually isn't the stability though, it's the fact that it doesn't retain my settings when I make changes in the options menu.

Well, this is strange, the settings should be automatically saved each time you change anything in options. So this can signalize there is a problem in loading or storing the settings.

If you want to help me troubleshoot it, you can run modrana from the terminal (just type modrana in the terminal) and copy the output after a crash/settings not saved/other bug.
You can open a new ticket for it on the project trac:
http://nlp.fi.muni.cz/trac/gps_navigace/newticket
Or just send it to the project e-mail:
modrana at gmail dot com

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by handaxe (Post 758937)

Good job. Are you going to get this in extras-testing etc, what are your development plans, licence etc.

I think I will try to get it to extras-testing, but I must first find some free time to do it :)
ModRana is free software, under GPL.
Considering my development plans, I can say they are pretty far reaching! :)
Just some random (possibly :) planed features:

tile updater
better map layer selection menu
interactive map layer config
interactive gui and infowidget config
support for offline POI cathalogues
more online service providers
more tracklog formats (KML ?)
measuring -> distance, area
drawing on the map, drawing tracklogs, screenshots
keyboard shortcuts
GUI rotation (suing the accelerometers ?)
vector maps (well, If I can find a suitable renderer somewhere :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by handaxe (Post 758937)

BTW: in track logging in would be nice to be able to log a personal POI.
HA

Well, this should by possible after I get to overhauling of the POI functionality.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Thanks for info. The more I play, the more I am impressed. Any idea why google sat does not display. UI indicated tiles were downloaded and nothing when connected wirelessly either, at any zoom level.
Watch out Mappero, here comes Modrana.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Can't wait for the POI work to finish, I've been SOL navigation-wise since the POIs were broken in Mappero.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by handaxe (Post 759382)

Any idea why google sat does not display.

Well, its simple :) Google does not support downloading their map and satellite tiles outside their web application. When they detect somebody downloading too many tiles, they ban his ip-address for about 24 hours. Because Openaerialmap is currently dead, there unfortunately appears to be no official way of getting satellite/aerial map tiles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd4200

Where does one obtain map tiles for said application?

Map tiles are automatically downloaded from the Internet, no need to get them externally.

Also, I released version 0.12, a small bugfix release.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

This looks impressive indeed! Any idea on if you can make it compatible with libgarmin? Now THAT would be a killer!

Thanks so much :)

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by esiravegna (Post 759434)

Any idea on if you can make it compatible with libgarmin? Now THAT would be a killer!

I tried to search a bit but couldn't find much info about the libgarmin project. But from what I found, it appears to be a parser for Garmin map files, so a vector map renderer would be needed to actually draw the map from the parsed data.

ModRana currently has no vector map renderer and all map layers are created from tiled images. So, it doesnt look too good for libgarmin in the short term...

In the long term, I plan to find some renderer that integrates well with Python and Py/GTK to add vector map support to modRana. Then I can try to somehow wrestle it to also render Garmin maps :)

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Wow, looks impressing! :)

What about to increase your audience and uploading it to maemo extras?

Have a look at one of the easiest ways:
http://maemo.org/packages/view/python2.5-py2deb/

And don't forget to fix the bucktracker issue:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Py2deb

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Thanks for this app, it looks great so far!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 759021)

It's true, the settings aren't being saved :(

Here's a snippet from stdout when run from terminal:

Code:

Clicked,  sending set:layer2:vsat|options:save|set:needRedraw:1

saving options

Can't save options

There's a whole bunch of those lines.

Feature request: Please add auto-rotate map so that the direction in which you're moving is at the top of the screen.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 761360)

What about to increase your audience and uploading it to maemo extras?

OK OK, I'm already working on it. :)
I finally managed to integrate the py2deb scratchbox build to my main build script and I already send an inviote request for the Autobuilder.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 761988)

It's true, the settings aren't being saved :(

Here's a snippet from stdout when run from terminal:

Code:

Clicked,  sending set:layer2:vsat|options:save|set:needRedraw:1

saving options

Can't save options

There's a whole bunch of those lines.

There can be something wrong with the file storing the options (/opt/modrana/data/options.bin). There are a few things you can try to fix it:

check permissions for that file
delete the file while modRana isn't running (new one will be automatically created at next start)
remove modRana with the --purge parameter:

Code:

apt-get remove --purge modrana

(this deletes the folder /opt/modrana and everything in it) and reinstall it

I'll also make it more verbose, so it should be easier to find out what exactly went wrong when the saving failed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 761360)

Feature request: Please add auto-rotate map so that the direction in which you're moving is at the top of the screen.

OK, I added a feature request ticket for it. Some thing to note:

text can be upside down after rotation
performance - maybe this would need some sort of acceleration to be usable

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Hi MartinK! My attempts to turn on the logging feature crash the program, the map image disappears, it becomes unresponsive. Good that it can use OpenStreetMap, a feature to submit new map elements (like, if I walk and see a new road or building) to their server would be great. Seems that it isn't remembering any of my user settings upon program restart. The interface is vivid, settings clear, it's multi-featured. Thank you! ~~Gryllida

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 763117)

There can be something wrong with the file storing the options (/opt/modrana/data/options.bin). There are a few things you can try to fix it:

check permissions for that file
...

OK that file doesn't exist. Reason being that most (all?) of the directories under /opt/modrana/ is owned by user "1000" (which doesn't exist on my system) and hence user "user" isn't able to create a new file. I fixed it by:

Code:

chmod o+w /opt/modrana/data/

Now file is created and options are saved OK :)

Quote:

OK, I added a feature request ticket for it. Some thing to note:

Many thanks!

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

chown'ing the files and directories under /opt/modrana worked for me as well.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Absolutely fantastic!!! Thank you!

Installation is a breeze, dl from 1st post, installed without a glitch! no dependence problems.
Run right out of box, no crashes.
Interface is very intuitive, if nothing else, the userface should be a model for a lot of other apps.

Thanks for the good app, early congratulation that this is going to be a hit!

bun

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Yes, chmod for /opt/modrana is a good solution! Now it remembers the options! And it doesn't have apparent problems with logging!

I'll try to do a field test soon.

To MartinK:

get file
postinst
in debian directory
and add line like
chmod -R 0777 /opt/modrana
or something similar

It might resolve many issues.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 763801)

chmod -R 0777 /opt/modrana

I would rather the ownership of directories issue be fixed instead of grant full rwx to all users.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Good job finding the permission issues, thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 763828)

I would rather the ownership of directories issue be fixed instead of grant full rwx to all users.

I for now added

Code:

chmod -R a+rw /opt/modrana

to the postinst script. I know this is not ideal, but I dont have a real N900 (well, yet :) ) so I cant just look what the default username/uid is :)

So, I would like to ask:

Whats the default username/uid ?
Is it always the same ?
Can it possibly be changed by the user ?
Is there some other way how to consistently set folder ownership ?

Then I can replace it by something like this:

Code:

chown -R default_user /opt/modrana

chmod -R o-rw /opt/modrana

chmod -R ug+rw /opt/modrana

I replaced the package with a new one with modified postinst, name/URL are the same.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 763958)

Whats the default username/uid ?

user:users

Quote:

Is it always the same ?

Yes.

Quote:

Can it possibly be changed by the user ?

No, all default N900 services and apps run as user:users

How about integrating turn-by-turn navigation, ala navit? This would beat the crap out of any commercial nav...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 白い熊 (Post 763966)

user:users

Yes.

No, all default N900 services and apps run as user:users

Thanks a lot! I'll change the postinst script right away. :) EDIT: done, package reuploaded

Quote:

Originally Posted by 白い熊 (Post 763966)

How about integrating turn-by-turn navigation, ala navit? This would beat the crap out of any commercial nav...

Well, routing results returned by Google already contain driving directions, for example:

Code:

Turn <b>left</b> at <b>London Rd/<wbr/>A40</b> <div class="">Continue to follow A40</div>



At junction <b>8</b>, exit toward <b>Thame/<wbr/>Milton Common</b>

For now, the direction messages are only signalized by yellow points when the route is drawn and their number is shown in "route info".

So, basically I just have to show these messages near corresponding trackpoints and we have a nice turn-by-turn navigation. :) With espeak, it should be possible to read them aloud too.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 764000)

So, basically I just have to show these messages near corresponding trackpoints and we have a nice turn-by-turn navigation. :) With espeak, it should be possible to read them aloud too.

Oh, wow, so that should be easy to integrate, if they're in this format, having espeak just read them out loud at approapriate points in time, and we're there...

This is great...

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 763958)

[*]Is there some other way how to consistently set folder ownership ?

Ideally everything should be

- owned by root
- not writeable by any user other than root (except for config files/user generated files etc)

For modRana 0.12 (the version I've installed) the following should tighten up and set the correct permissions:

make everything owned by root
chown -R root:root /opt/modrana/

allow user to create new files in /opt/modrana/data/
chmod o+w /opt/modrana/data/

allow user to create new files in /opt/modrana/tracklogs/
chmod o+w /opt/modrana/tracklogs/

repeat the chmod for any other directories in which user needs to create files

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

One thing that modRana desperately needs is an option to keep the screen on!

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Looks good but does this have voice/speech enabled?

I am surprised OVI maps doesnt have this and yet they are trying to push it out.

I would love to see TomTom release a version for maemo/meego would be good.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 764905)

Ideally everything should be
- owned by root
- not writeable by any user other than root (except for config files/user generated files etc)

Good idea! :) I made everything owned by root but readable be everyone, only the folders/files for configs/cache etc. are set as writable for other (which is the user running modRana in this case).
I also added a command to generate all the *.pyc files, which would not be crated automatically because the code folders are read only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 764920)

One thing that modRana desperately needs is an option to keep the screen on!

OK, I'll look whats needed for this. This should be easy to do, just some d-bus command or something like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboyuk (Post 765113)

Looks good but does this have voice/speech enabled?

Well, not yet. :) But its in the pipeline for the turn-by-turn navigation functionality (most probably using espeak).

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

am i the only one with this problem: i installed modrana but it doesn't show up in my list of apps. i have to drop to xterm and root to run it.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 766671)

am i the only one with this problem: i installed modrana but it doesn't show up in my list of apps. i have to drop to xterm and root to run it.

How did you install it? The Extras-devel package is finally usable since 12-6. If you installed a previous build (12-2 - 12-5), there can be problems (notably a missing modrana.desktop file :) ).

Also If you installed from the linked deb package, I recommend upgrading to the Extras-devel version.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

ModRana is finally available in Extras-devel !

The package is called modrana and can be found in the Location&navigation section.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

that explains it. i was on 12-5. installing 12-6 now. :)

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hmmmmmmm..........well modrana.desktop appears but when i launch it, nothing happens. the app quits immediately after about 8 seconds or so of loading.

running it from xterm + root privileges works though.

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

btw, is this supposed to work with the built-in GPS because i can't get a fix on my location. it keeps defaulting to some place in europe..

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

just installed from -devel and can confirm above. when started from the app mgr it just dissapears. start as user from xterm gives:

~ $ modrana
/usr/bin/modrana: cd: line 2: can't cd to /opt/modrana/
python2.5: can't open file 'modrana.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
~ $

running from xterm as root works fine. app itself looks very good at first glance though, will give it a good try soon, but routing, UI and options all look like it should be the best mapping app for maemo once you get around to adding eSpeak support. Thanks for a great start!

Re: [Announce] modRana: a flexible GPS navigation system

this may be wierd, but after

root
apt-get install modrana

it installed cloudgps

the icon was cloudgps and it launched the program cloudgps.

so i tried

apt-get install modrana

and it said it was already installed.

so i then

apt-get install cloudgps

and it said already installed

then

apt-get remove cloudgps

and it uninstalled the cloudgps

i looked for the modrana icon and nothing.

then, apt-get remove modrana

said it wasnt installed.

then i went to the dev repo and dl vs 6 there. transfered to my device and installed it.

dpkg -i "filename"

it said that it was going to replace the vs. 5!!! yet it said it wasnt installed. lol. confusing.

so after installation, it showed the icon, but crashed upon opening. i uninstalled it and then went directly to the deb file in my folder and opened it to install. after installation, it crashed upon opening.

after trying to open it 6 times with crashes, i have typed this feed for you.