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theonelaw 2017-01-07 05:12

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1521512)
How about these for hwkb watches. Can anyone put their favourite linux distro on one of them...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculator_watch

I wore the Casio versions for about 10 years,
but I checked - they were just keyboard+screen+rom,
nowhere to go with that.

In that day (and night ! ) they were indispensible.

theonelaw 2017-01-07 05:54

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken-Young (Post 1521507)
OK, this won't satisfy the folks who demand a hardware keyboard, but it's pretty cool:

https://learntemail.sam.today/blog/m...it-is-amazing/

Thanks for this reminder !

I was waiting for the Urbane when they pulled it from the market,
and promptly forgot about the possibilities for awhile.


I was thinking along the lines of a digital 'phone' watch for
  • phone calls, if absolutely necessary
  • a simple clock+calculator (ala old Casio designs)
  • SMS (for simple connectivity maintenance)
  • and feeding internet access -
    - to a linux tablet where any and all heavy lifting occurs.


Perhaps the battery for tethering purposes might be overworked,
but what I was looking at was separating the comms issues
(particularly the part about what operators do to services)
from the tablet side of things which can focus on being a computer.

Something along the lines of "wearing a modem on the wrist".

I have bought a couple of those LTE modems
but they were urban disasters - no way to maintain the channel.
You need SMS and USSD so you can maintain the channel,
but all other comms (aside from silly vocal grunting)
can be rerouted (and logged ! ) through the tablet side of things.

At this time I am using my Ubuntu E5 as a modem
(almost the only useful thing it is good for)
but not very happy with the form factor.
I have an Android I planned to use but looking at the massive
spew of data it casually heaves about unasked,
it is spending time on the shelf waiting for a new OS these days.

If we had a phone watch that was focused on just being a clock
and translating GSM/LTE/whatever into wifi internet access
then I reckon that makes getting a pocketable handheld
running linux much more likely - it removes locale issues.

You can find any kind of wifi almost anywhere on the planet,
but the border wars defined by telcom operators
limit broadband tablet products to very nationalistic sentiments.

By moving the broadband issues off the tablet
we can win one very crucial battle.

And this is completely (awesome) over the top:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQOcx_JoAWE

peterleinchen 2017-01-07 11:58

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1521533)
yup...

And as far as the love goes between broadcom and linux goes?
brrr...
that is a frosty frosty love...
usually only seen between couples who split UN- amicably and where neither of the couple can move out.
brrr...

Frankly...
I am incredibly surprised at 'law's success with a tablet with a broadcom chip and getting the wifi to work on ANY linux distro.

Me...
I don't personally have ANY device with a broadcom chip in it... anymore.

So yeah...
When looking for a new device and you want linux on it..hell anything on it...
Do your due diligence ...
and make sure the device DOESN'T contain a broadcom chip...
(unless you are a masochist ...that is...)

Confirmed! :(
Just struggled a few evenings (spare time is rare) to get rid of my last Windoze compi and install Linux on an old Asus laptop.
WiFi (broadcom) just did not want to run. Neither with Ubuntu chosen driver (b43) nor with proprietary driver (wl). Solution for me: new install WITHOUT proprietary stuff checked, (sudo apt-get remove b43-fwcutter bcmwl-kernel-source,) sudo apt-get install b43- fwcutter firmware-b43-installer, reboot

But to find the correct solution/commands ... oh dear!

--
now I only need to find solution (ubuntu14) why the computer keeps running but shows only a black screen after the screensaver hit after selected time. As soon as the screen blanks there is no reaction to mouse/keyboard/anything but the power button?
(and I thought Linux is user/noob friendly ;))

mrsellout 2017-01-07 12:17

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1521544)
Confirmed! :(
Just struggled a few evenings (spare time is rare) to get rid of my last Windoze compi and install Linux on an old Asus laptop.
WiFi (broadcom) just did not want to run. Neither with Ubuntu chosen driver (b43) nor with proprietary driver (wl). Solution for me: new install WITHOUT proprietary stuff checked, (sudo apt-get remove b43-fwcutter bcmwl-kernel-source,) sudo apt-get install b43- fwcutter firmware-b43-installer, reboot

But to find the correct solution/commands ... oh dear!

--
now I only need to find solution (ubuntu14) why the computer keeps running but shows only a black screen after the screensaver hit after selected time. As soon as the screen blanks there is no reaction to mouse/keyboard/anything but the power button?
(and I thought Linux is user/noob friendly ;))

Sounds like it's going into a suspended state. Anything in the logs?

railroadmaster 2017-01-08 00:15

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
http://liliputing.com/2017/01/gpd-po...u-support.html

The GPD pocket will have Ubuntu support, so other distros would probably work.

t-b 2017-01-08 07:27

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
I am not so sure if it will support Ubuntu/Linux.

"it’s expected to support either Windows 10 or Ubuntu 16.04 Linux."


They said something similar about the GPD Win and as far as I know they never assisted with installing a Linux distro on the GPD Win.

pichlo 2017-01-08 11:26

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-b (Post 1521591)
I am not so sure if it will support Ubuntu/Linux.

"it’s expected to support either Windows 10 or Ubuntu 16.04 Linux."

I am not a native English speaker but I would read that sentence as, "it is expected that the user will have a choice of installing X or Y." I may be wrong, of course.

Quote:

They said something similar about the GPD Win
Did they? I do not remember that. Any mention of Linux on GPD Win that I remember came from various community wish lists, not from GPD themselves. Again, I do not claim infallibility.

t-b 2017-01-08 14:22

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1521599)
I am not a native English speaker but I would read that sentence as, "it is expected that the user will have a choice of installing X or Y." I may be wrong, of course.

Yes, I guess you're right #Iblamegoogletranslate ;)

Still.. I doubt GPD will fully support Ubuntu but I hope they will prove me wrong.

railroadmaster 2017-01-08 21:43

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
GPD may not fully support Linux, but the components will likely have drivers that do, so Linux issues shouldn't be a problem.

maegon9y00 2017-01-10 21:04

Re: What's the best Handheld gnu/linux machine for 2017?
 
It would be great to do something like this:
http://makezine.com/2014/01/07/how-i...rry-pi-tablet/

Using this or at least raspberry pi3
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...pl/description

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPYOzjyAS6s


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