Should I buy new N810 ten years after release?
 

I am amazed that in Amazon there is still new N810 for sale, but should I buy new N810 ten years after release?

What I can do with N810, but not with N900?

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The N810 has a larger screen and can run ASUI. ;)

I used mine everyday to read web pages until it broke yesterday. :(

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What is ASUI?

to OP: I would buy an N810 because I like how it is built. I would prefer N900 for all other reasons.

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Advanced SystemUI -- http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63292

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Great application, and you've done good work there!

With all due respect - I don't see why it should sway one in any direction (N900 vs. N810). It's definitely a must-have after one has already decided on an N810.

Re: Should I buy new N810 ten years after release?
 

I suggest not only an n810 but an n800 as well...
the very different benefits of both become apparent once one truly mucks about and understands their unique abilities.
for example...
the n810 with its back lit keyboard...is handy for many os's , de's , wm's and apps that need that physik keyboard.
the n800 with it's 2 sd card slots and it's front facing speakers...is perfect as a media beast...music, film, audiobook....etc..

that is just a small example of a couple of their best attributes and uses applied to them. ...that are more practically and immediately applicable ...
there are others...
(But I will keep my post as brief as possible here and not consume a page...or pages ...as is my wont...)

As far as true daily drivers go...
If one were talking about a well built, and supported device with cel capabilities...
I have absolutely no comment to provide on that.
it would be pages long if I did...and there already is a thread on that topic.

If however one is talking about a truly flexible device..a computer...a tablet...that runs not just "a'" operating system...but can run many...
with so much to offer ...
still...
and so much to explore ...
still....
and so much yet to be created on....
still....
with a chassis that is great...
screen real estate which is great...
and so much more....
still....
10 years on...

then look no further....

as far as stability goes in o.s., ap, build and body...
well...countless things have and do go wrong all the time for n900 owners ..
the n8x0's were put together pretty darn good...
from bottom ..up....
I have never had one have actual problems for me...
and I have had and do still have quite a few n8x0's ...


I suggest finding one cheap on ebay...
or elsewhere...
buying retail is not a choice I would make when you can pick one up at more reasonable prices than amazon...
you could spend that excess saving on extra batteries...
or a solio solar charger...
or countless other accessories for your new toy.

Re: Should I buy new N810 ten years after release?
 

What's not being said in this thread so far would be how the N810 would require the user to know how to set up custom repositories since the Nokia ones are dead. Also, a lot of software has not been updated or fixed in ages - but many are still useful.

The N810 has no GSM radios in it whereas the N900 does. So calls from the N810 are going to have to be via Wi-Fi via SIP.

However, out of all of the Maemo releases, the N810 was my favorite. But after so many years, I'd find my actual uses to be limited - streaming music, perhaps streaming some video, as an alarm clock and to let me know what the weather may be. Some eBook reading and some very, very, very, very casual web browsing.

If you're adventurous and have some specific use cases; I'd say go for it.

I KNEW this thread would attract endsormeans...

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Well it isn't like the nokia repos for the n8x0's had a great deal in them in the first place...
rarely do I ever need anything from them...
and ...of course I would not think...nor dare dream of violating Nokia's copyright laws by having a back up of those few nokia bits anyway... :D

custom repos ?
I got mine...
but yet again it is only in case of nuclear war...
haven't really needed to use them either...
other than some 3rd party repos which need to be either brought under the n8x0 official repos...or saved in their entirety to wayback
for access, research purposes and download...the main repos are perfectly fine...

and yes of course some apps have not been maintained...
But that can be remedied in most cases where the problem is just that.. ...by people taking the time to maintain them...
The bulk of the maemo4 apps work fine still..

I putter and use many of them all the time...

and yup ..it is slow compared to 16gb ram octocores nowadays...
and yup ...consequently due to browsers not investing time in older hardware...it is slow compared to modern devices with modern browsers...

as far as no gsm...
yup ..it isn't a "phone"
and for all the greatness of the n900 (and the n900 is truly the best linux phone past present and for a little while to come...yet....)
there are plenty enough issues which have come about for endusers with the gsm end of things...
Just look at the number of issues...there are plenty of threads....
right down to the infamous "No telephony...." thread.

In the end...the durability of the devices..and the fact that 10 years on..it is STILL a device and platform with use and life...
says volumes...
How many devices are useless after a few years nowadays?


In the end...
It truly depends what you want....what you expect ...out of a device...

and how you wish to make it work for you.

Re: Should I buy new N810 ten years after release?
 

I like a lot how N810 sound, there is no phone/tablet around with these stereo capabilities and compactness.

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I decided to buy second hand N810. Now it is on my hand, I have to say it's not stupid buy new N810. Ofcourse it's not for everybody, but its classic like Harley Davidson on motorcycles and you want custom it by yourself.

And I impressed that Meamo 4.1 on N810 is so different than Maemo 5 on N900. It's like step from Maemo 6 (Meego on N950) to Meamo 5 on N900. I think I am only guy who has seen Maemo versions in "wrong" order and I have to say if Nokia release somekind new Classic Maemo tablet/phone it should have OS chooser by user taste.

If Nokia is burning platform then it burning longer than others :)

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Yup...slow ...very very slow burning...
More like a slight rash than an actual burn ...even.

Yup maemo 4 is quite different...
I prefer the layout frankly...to 5 or 6...
Personal tastes.

I am sure you will fond lots to do with it.

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yes..I think that I have to start new thread here, because so much to say and some questions, but I have to search here first.

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Here is a list of maemo4 related stuff I wrote for personal reference, http://maemo.qzx.com

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No wonder then that they crashed and burnt like that. Users do not expect a new OS with every HW model release. They expect continuity. Most old Windows XP apps still work in Windows 10. Old Android 2.x apps still work in Android 7.x. Heck, my daughter can still install some apps from Google Play on her ancient Android 2.3 phone. Break the continuity and you lose customers like water from a sieve.

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When my N900 was under repair (In 2011), I used an N810 for two weeks (borrowed from uni department). It was a lovely device, which was kind of OK for some of the stuff I would want, but...

Aside of some very lightweight on-the-go hacking (terminal and IRC) and browsing some very old webpages (after all the browser is 10 years old), and watching very low-res videos (I doubt it would play H.265 in 720p), I don't see what use case it would have these days.

However, if there were a device with a similar form factor but up-to-date hardware, I would buy that instantly.

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There is coming Neo900, but I think there should be coming Neo810 too!

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Are there working internet radio applications for N810? The speakers are good, I used to listen a lot of radio with my N810 years ago.

Also, does the email notifier for Gmail still work?

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N810 has a lot of advs compare to N900 to me, it's build quality is much better and screen is bigger. Also I prefer Maemo 4's UI and system to Maemo 5...

Other like Endsormeans also prefers resistive screen (to Maemo 6?)

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A keyboard for an android phone can't replace the n810.

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You certainly don't know what is happening.

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Wait. What?

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concerning internet radio ..yup still works...
oscp works fine..
amongst other programs to utilize it.

concerning gmail or other mail....
it has been a bit since I used it for such...
have to test it again.


Now....
I do hope gerbick wore his brown pants today...
since it appears chen's statement filled gerbick's drawers out of complete surprise.

welly well well
chen ...you wily bastard what are you up to in your Frankensteinian laboratory ? eh?

and yes...

the form factor ....
the left / right speakers...(wish they were front left / right speakers like the n800...though...)
the camera is ..adequate...(I like the turnable periscope cam on the n800...mondo cool...)
the particular keyboard ...
the screen size and real estate...
the resiistive screen...
the separate charge port and separate usb connection and separate headphone port...
the removable battery...
the easy access while running sd slot...(pity the n810 doesn't have two sd slots like the n800 though...since it allows a lot of easy alternate os implementation...)
the os and de and wm ...(which I know is a personal taste issue...but with the flexibility of the n810 and using so many options ...that is a non issue...)
Hell...
I don't know too many handhelds that can actually run real xmms ...with all the bells and whistles and virtualization eye candy...like the n8x0's (on maemo4) even....

hell...maemo versions don't have the crud android does...
perpetual cleanings...viruses...malwares...al the garbage...
sigh...just a really bad platform...
and the other big boys are no better....

out of every handheld ...anything...I have ever put into my hand...

the n810 was / is.....
hands down the all around best.


Chen....
If you are planning to make a modern revisionist n810 ...
which addresses the few short comings the original had....
do it right....
and the world will follow you

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Just was fiddling with the stock media player...xmms...oscp...internet radio still works fine.

I enjoy listening to early music...channels such as ceu medieval radio from the university ...out of budapest ..

sitting here with my n800 cranking it out...right now...
luverly

Re: Should I buy new N810 ten years after release?
 

Is N810 unique mobile device that you can charge battery and keep your USB-device in device together?

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?............
elaborate please.
an example of what you are referring to would be nice.

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Nothing special..I just copying files from usb-memory stick and noticed that battery is almost empty, I didn't have to stop copying to free usb-port for usb-charger, I just plug charger in its hole.

I impressed also how easy usb devices works compared to N900.

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ah....
yes...
I thought that is what you were referring to ...
But I wanted to make sure.

yup ...
usb works much smoother than n900 ...(in my opinion anyway)..
and...
separate dedicated power port and separate dedicated usb is pretty darn handy eh?

Re: Should I buy new N810 ten years after release?
 

I am impressed in how long battery last. I have used in light use and shutdown for nights and used about 1 hour/day. And this was second time this year that I charge N810.

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Not bad battery life eh?
:)
Speaking of batteries ...
I have now and again taken a look on eBay...and there seems to be plenty of higher capacity batteries available for the n810 lately...
Polarcell and their ilk ...
Want even longer battery life...grab a few of those 1700 (+ or -) mah batteries..