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brashley46 2008-12-19 06:29

Update today
 
to Diablo 5.2008.43-7 was unable to complete through the App Manager, due to not enough room in device memory. I had to reflash through the Windows box instead. Thought we were getting away from this! :mad:

Johnx 2008-12-19 06:55

Re: Update today
 
So what do you want it to do if there isn't enough room to update safely? Try anyways and fail halfway through?

brashley46 2008-12-19 08:45

Re: Update today
 
No, but it should not be so large and all inclusive that I'd have to uninstall half-a-dozen apps to make room. :(

emjayes 2008-12-19 09:02

Re: Update today
 
Move your apt-cache to memory card, then you will have much more space for upgrading.

Lord Raiden 2008-12-19 19:34

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emjayes: Sounds good. How do you do that? o_0

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-19 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brashley46 (Post 250812)
No, but it should not be so large and all inclusive that I'd have to uninstall half-a-dozen apps to make room. :(

So your next solution is for them to simply ship fewer updates?

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjayes (Post 250813)
Move your apt-cache to memory card, then you will have much more space for upgrading.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 250932)
emjayes: Sounds good. How do you do that? o_0

You don't, Application Manager caches to mmc2 automatically (assuming it's not corrupted, anyway).

Lord Raiden 2008-12-19 19:52

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GeneralAntilles: Alright, fair enough. But if that's the case, why'd he say to move it?

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-19 19:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Raiden (Post 250943)
GeneralAntilles: Alright, fair enough. But if that's the case, why'd he say to move it?

Not being telepathic, I couldn't really say. ;) Perhaps he's assuming Application Manager doesn't because apt-get doesn't, but you'd have to ask him.

luca 2008-12-19 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 250936)
So your next solution is for them to simply ship fewer updates?

Or ship upgrades for individual packages instead of upgrading everything at once.

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-19 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 250952)
Or ship upgrades for individual packages instead of upgrading everything at once.

Unfortunately it seems that Nokia's infrastructure isn't set up for that for the time being.

FRZ 2008-12-19 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by luca (Post 250952)
Or ship upgrades for individual packages instead of upgrading everything at once.

i noticed that too. To upgrade you have to completely re-flashed the system and start over.

Benson 2008-12-19 22:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FRZ (Post 250958)
i noticed that too. To upgrade you have to completely re-flashed the system and start over.

We all noticed that -- a year ago, when it was true. Since Diablo, reflashing has not been necessary in general. The issue referred to by Luca is the way Nokia is now pushing "service packs" that force simultaneous upgrade of all updated packages, rather than releasing each package as it's updated.

fragos 2008-12-20 03:00

Re: Update today
 
Some aps store large data base files in the primary storage but can be directed to save them on the internal or external card. I gained a lot of room that way. Maps and Maemo Mapper are two examples.

honzik 2008-12-20 03:36

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Where can I go to see what has been fixed in this upgrade? I was hoping that it would have an A2DP upgrade (since bug 667 has been declared fixed), but apparently it's not there. Is there any hope for A2DP in a standard upgrade on the N810?

GeneralAntilles 2008-12-20 03:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by honzik (Post 251030)
I was hoping that it would have an A2DP upgrade (since bug 667 has been declared fixed), but apparently it's not there. Is there any hope for A2DP in a standard upgrade on the N810?

Please review the bug more closely, you'll notice the target milestone is set to 'Fremantle'.

honzik 2008-12-20 07:08

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Missed that, sorry. Still, any hope to see A2DP working with Diablo, since Fremantle appears to be only for the next generation of internet tables?

tz1 2008-12-22 16:38

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to extend fragos' comments, if you have lots of music and other media in the internal storage, that might be eating the space you need. Just the default howto video takes several meg. Deleting these or at least moving them to the internal flash mmc might free up enough space. In the control panel, Memory -> details will show the amount used for documents, applications, images, etc. Applications might not be movable but the rest generally are.

Benson 2008-12-22 16:52

Re: Update today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by honzik (Post 251068)
Missed that, sorry. Still, any hope to see A2DP working with Diablo, since Fremantle appears to be only for the next generation of internet tables?

This has been discussed at length elsewhere, but Nokia is generally supportive of seeing Maemo 5 on current hardware, and the community interest seems to be there; I personally am quite confident it'll happen, but there are some doubters out there.

As far as Diablo, I don't think so. I wouldn't go as far as to say integrating proper A2DP support in Diablo is as big a project as the Fremantle backport, but it's close enough to be a poor option; resources are better put toward the Mer/backport effort, where much greater returns can be realized.

stevecrye 2009-01-08 18:06

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HI;

I had only 17 BM left on Flash. I deleted a lot of crap and moved some less-than-crap to SD. That resulted in 60 MB free on the 256 flash on my n810. Then was able to install.

Steve


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