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HtheB 2015-03-04 03:21

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
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Many of you are eagerly waiting for Whatsup on Jolla.
I am proud to say that CepiPerez has made a huge progress on this!
Beware that there are still some stuff missing.

So, I made a video about the Alpha version of Whatsup.
Enjoy this live action of Whatsup on Jolla:
http://youtu.be/Nv3XzCvTmlE

Using Whatsup Beta0.1-2 with the Jolla TOHKDB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLD3M_zv5Bo

Grab the latest version from here: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.ph...63#post1502363

Please consider to donate to CepiPerez!
It will encourage him to finish Whatsup earlier :)

cquence 2015-03-04 13:21

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Hey that's great news! The important part I guess is if using this application will introduce the risk of getting banned from Whatsapp

Whippler 2015-03-04 13:40

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Well, seems like it's not official so... lets get banned again, for good this time!

HtheB 2015-03-04 13:59

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whippler (Post 1462982)
Well, seems like it's not official so... lets get banned again, for good this time!

This uses the same protocol as we have on the N9, since the N9 users have not been banned yet, I don't think we will get banned on Jolla either :)

pagis 2015-03-04 15:10

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Still is that a good reason not to be banned?

HtheB 2015-03-04 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pagis (Post 1462993)
Still is that a good reason not to be banned?

yes .

m4r0v3r 2015-03-04 15:32

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
how are things like the encryption? Can it also simply register with no issues? If this works I can make the move to the Nexus 5

HtheB 2015-03-04 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1462997)
how are things like the encryption? Can it also simply register with no issues? If this works I can make the move to the Nexus 5

Registering works, but you can also just copy the old config files from Harmattan to Sailfish, so no need to re-register. You will also have all your contacts and conversations back :)

Morpog 2015-03-04 15:46

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
I guess there is no encryption as it uses the old whatsapp protocols that were/are used in Symbian?

Could be a dead end as soon as Whatsapp phases out Symbian support.

HtheB 2015-03-04 15:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1463001)
I guess there is no encryption as it uses the old whatsapp protocols that were/are used in Symbian?

Could be a dead end as soon as Whatsapp phases out Symbian support.

It uses S40 protocol, not Symbian. And afaik, S40 doesn't have this encryption (yet)

I don't think they will phaseout Whatsapp soon for S40

coderus 2015-03-04 15:59

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
S40 have encryption enabled, but not forced for all users.

pagis 2015-03-04 16:17

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
S40 devices are a minority and will be phased out soon at some point. Meanwhile WA is changing the API, partially to make that period shorter.

Do not get me wrong, I do really appreciate the work from CepiPerez and coderus.

Hariainm 2015-03-04 16:28

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagis (Post 1463011)
S40 devices are a minority and will be phased out soon at some point. Meanwhile WA is changing the API, partially to make that period shorter.

Do not get me wrong, I do really appreciate the work from CepiPerez and coderus.

You are understimating the number of S40 devices out there, even in 2015

Watchmaker 2015-03-04 16:33

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Another possible problem is: will registration work also for former Mitakuuluu users (which used the android protocol)? I recently had to pay the annual 0.89€ fee after my first free year, and I don't know how Whatsapp will react to my trying to register with the old (and subscription-free) symbian protocol. I don't know if Cepi can know this either. We just have to wait and see, I suppose... I won't be the guinea pig, that's for sure :p

HtheB 2015-03-04 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchmaker (Post 1463013)
Another possible problem is: will registration work also for former Mitakuuluu users (which used the android protocol)? I recently had to pay the annual 0.89€ fee after my first free year, and I don't know how Whatsapp will react to my trying to register with the old (and subscription-free) symbian protocol. I don't know if Cepi can know this either. We just have to wait and see, I suppose... I won't be the guinea pig, that's for sure :p

If you have an unlimited use of Whatsapp account, it will stay that way.

Watchmaker 2015-03-04 17:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1463014)
If you have an unlimited use of Whatsapp account, it will stay that way.

I don't have an unlimited use of whatsapp. That is what I think may cause problems... since from a paying users I'd be trying to become a free-unlimited one. But we can just speculate at this point.

deiv 2015-03-04 18:24

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
can you share with us the rpm package?
i understand it is on alpha stage but we can do some bug report ...

Leinad 2015-03-04 18:57

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as far as i understand, your "payment-method" is not tied to a device or system, it uses the method, you registered your number for the first time.

for example, one who used the "one-time-pay-method" on iPhone when he registered first time does not change to the "yearly-pay-method", when he switches to android.

i used an old Symbian device when my screen was broken and used whatsapp on it whithout problems, this did not change my "payment-method"

asys3 2015-03-04 20:51

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Is there a whatsapp daemon running besides the gui frontend that receives the incoming messages ?

I mean do i have to keep whatsapp gui started or in background to get whatsapp notifications?

That would be an very important thing to not have an app running - only perhaps a daemon process.

Would be nice to hear how that piece of the archtecture is or will be realized.

mdosch 2015-03-28 18:59

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Hello,

I'd like to test the alpha if it's possible.
Can you provide me the package?

vistaus 2015-03-28 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mdosch (Post 1465205)
Hello,

I'd like to test the alpha if it's possible.
Can you provide me the package?

Same wish over here :)

aQUICK1 2015-03-29 00:24

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vistaus (Post 1465214)
Same wish over here :)

Likewise;)

aka_makaveli 2015-03-29 14:22

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
I don't want to use Whatsapp with Android environment. Will wait for the native client :)

mdosch 2015-03-29 17:43

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@aka_makaveli

That's exactly why we are following this thread. :D
Although I have to admit I'm using the android app since Mitäkuuluu stopped working. :(

peter-berlin 2015-03-29 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mdosch (Post 1465283)
@aka_makaveli

That's exactly why we are following this thread. :D
Although I have to admit I'm using the android app since Mitäkuuluu stopped working. :(

the same procedure with me... :mad:

aQUICK1 2015-03-29 21:24

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
Still using Mita but getting buggy now, ;)

carepack 2015-04-09 09:27

Re: Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview
 
first preview was released by cepi:
https://twitter.com/negrocepi/status/585919366086193152

tvicol 2015-04-09 11:04

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Registration error

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Reason:
Server response was:bad_param

carepack 2015-04-09 11:14

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
used mitakuuluu before? when yes you should delete all related mitakuuluu folders in nemo/.config and nemo/.share

then it should work

ahoi

tvicol 2015-04-09 11:28

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Thanks for advice, but I have recently recovered my phone, so no trace of mitaluuluu in my folders.
It must be something else. I use android whatsapp. It could be related to encryption ?

carepack 2015-04-09 11:51

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
enter you're number in this format:
+country code
phone number without first digit.

don't know if necessary but I would recommend to delete android wa from the phone..

tvicol 2015-04-09 11:57

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Killed whatsapp android process and registration went ok.
Thank you !

tvicol 2015-04-09 12:23

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Very nice work ! Clean, intuitive and responsive gui.
I like it very much !

cvp 2015-04-09 12:34

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Registration (Germany) , OK!
Working very well... i love it, grate work Cepi...

vistaus 2015-04-09 13:41

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Working very well here in The Netherlands as well, thank you!

hemiwi 2015-04-09 13:59

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Works in Finland too.

As someone wrote:
1.) kill Android Whatsapp Process
2.) + Int contry code
3.) Phone numner without (0)

registration went fine.

Big THX and Thumbs up !!!

Kake41 2015-04-09 14:31

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Awesome!
Now I can get rid of Dalvik.

mind_the_gap 2015-04-09 15:15

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Great work! Thanks! Where can we find the source code?

abyzthomas 2015-04-09 15:35

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kake41 (Post 1466211)
Awesome!
Now I can get rid of Dalvik.

Well, one more app left for me. Navigation. I use Waze, once in a while. I can now leave Dalvik shutdown most of the time.

Hopefully one of the native solutions will become really usable and then, :) :) , bye bye Dalvik.

CepiPerez 2015-04-09 15:58

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla - Alpha preview (Beta released)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mind_the_gap (Post 1466222)
Great work! Thanks! Where can we find the source code?

Nowhere. I don't want WhatsApp to make some shlt on me.
QML files are in /usr/share/whatsup folder, protocol is not so different from yappari or mitakuuluu, except I have a lot of unused code I've never cleaned. The rest is just basic like reading folders, files, etc.
I'll clean it someday and maybe put on some private repo, but there's a lot to do and it's not a priority for me.


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