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DirkDagger

2014-12-07 00:29

Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 HWiD 0104 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

I hear U love UnReleased Prototypes...
So, I took UnReleased OS and flash* it in UnReleased Prototype...
http://savepic.org/6582994.jpg

First Real Photo Confirmation of Nokia [Meltemi OS] Smartphone. :)

http://savepic.org/6573778m.png

http://savepic.org/6570706m.png

http://savepic.org/6571730m.png

http://savepic.org/6577874m.png

*I have no image of Meltemi OS. Just got this one unit in my collection. Maybe will make full review in the future. :)

eekkelund

2014-12-07 01:04

Re: Nokia RM-784. UnReleased [Meltemi OS] SmartPhone.

Where did you get it?

Cool!

myname24

2014-12-07 01:16

Re: Nokia RM-784. UnReleased [Meltemi OS] SmartPhone.

ohh very nice

minimos

2014-12-07 07:28

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

"OS Version: 0.0.01"
Oh dear... :)

ste-phan

2014-12-07 09:33

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

so if Nolkia had had a black human CEO (trying to understand 1st pic) in those critical days instead of Elop from some lab tube, floor tiles would now fear being hit be this good looking combo.

too bad it's history , the form factor invites slider HWKB design!

chenliangchen

2014-12-07 10:50

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Nice! Thanks for sharing!
I guess our user "N950" will get a few pieces quite shortly. :p

DirkDagger

2014-12-07 11:08

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

I don't think so) Too exclusive stuff))
I have many more interesting Nokia protos incl. unreleased smartphones. Maybe upload 'em later)
Btw, little update:

http://savepic.org/6611706m.png

http://savepic.org/6614778m.png

http://savepic.org/6612730m.png

myname24

2014-12-07 11:20

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

well there were some who said it looked like a c7 . They were true
edit : moar lauta if available :p and a pureview harmattan wouldn't hurt also :p
edit 2 : a nice list to start showing pics http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames#Hardware :)

mr_pingu

2014-12-07 11:35

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirkDagger (Post 1450984)

I don't think so) Too exclusive stuff))
I have many more interesting Nokia protos incl. unreleased smartphones. Maybe upload 'em later)

He has quite some proto's too ;) Don't underestimate his collection.
And yes please do, I'm very interested ^^

Morpog

2014-12-07 11:39

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Give us a video how the OS works please.

DirkDagger

2014-12-07 11:52

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

2mr_pingu
... and my "some" is "awesome"))
For example, from already posted, here are some #rare unreleased items photographed by me:

Nokia "Atlantis" RM-683 B1.1 UnReleased Prototype.

http://savepic.org/6601471m.png

http://savepic.org/6599423m.png

http://savepic.org/6587135m.png

http://savepic.org/6591231m.png

"One More Über Rare Unreleased Nokia Prototype. CodeName: RM-683.
(These Physical RM-683 Protos Were Used In "Real Steel" Movie In Order To Create An Unique Nokia Concept Phone.)
1) http://www.concept-phones.com/nokia/...s-meego-icons/
2) http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/12/fu...reen-nokia-n9/
Early, But Fully Working FW: Another Variation Of Symbian S^3.
12MP Carl Zeiss + AF + Xenon Flash; F/2.8/28; 3.5" AMOLED.
3.5 Audio-Jack; HDMI; MicroSD. SlimLine Form. Stainless Steel.
Silver + Black Cover Variation. Frozen Future Of Nokia N8. Pre 808. Still 'Wanna 7700, eh?)"
(For: https://www.facebook.com/groups/hapeprototype/ - 25/11/2013)

I think I will make extra standalone thread for this in:
maemo.org > Talk > Devices > Competitors.

2Morpog I will try to do it in Jan. At the moment not really much free time. As abt "works" is quite sloooowpoke ant buggy. Cause as a whole, it's initial release. :)

DirkDagger

2014-12-07 13:06

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Btw, ok done:
1) Nokia "Atlantis" RM-683 B1.1 [UnReleased Prototype].
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94276

https://pp.vk.me/c316917/v316917718/...ZhZXeteboc.jpg
2) Nokia E80 RM-137 [Unreleased Prototype B.3.1] (FW: V 06.38.1.0 PRD 02-10-06 RM-137).
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1450998

So, I think that's enough for awesome UnReleased stuff for this week)

nodevel

2014-12-07 14:58

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Wow, this is very exciting. I would love to see more of the Meltemi OS.

I think I will speak for all of us when I ask: Is there any way you could extract the Meltemi image from the device?

This could be the only chance to see it, even though the first reports of killing Meltemi come from June 2012, so it theoretically could have seen another 5 months of development since your 0.0.01 version.

Rusnak-COBRA

2014-12-07 15:32

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Лев, that are some amazing phones you showed to us. I have only protos of later released devices, like 6310, N950, 7610, E70, 3300, 6680, N71, C7 /C0.

and regarding Meltemi OS, please, show us as much details as you can, everyone is interested and you definitely know the reasons. We need to know what could happen to nokia in alternative universe.

www.rzr.online.fr

2014-12-07 15:56

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Yea Any GNU/Linux based product is what matters here ...

panjgoori

2014-12-07 16:16

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

now i want to kill elop. Meltemi was almost ready. he ruined everything.

nokiabot

2014-12-07 16:24

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Hitman was actually needed for elop than pottering lol

DirkDagger

2014-12-07 21:54

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

2nodevel
No problem. If anyone here can write complete guide how to dump Meltemi's image, I will do it for community. I'm quite good at symbian (as User), but my experience with Linux based OS is quite poor. :)

myname24

2014-12-07 22:08

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

does a terminal app exist ?

DirkDagger

2014-12-07 22:12

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Ok. I will try to do few more photos this week close to holidays.
To show what apps it has on board.

NokiaFanatic

2014-12-07 22:35

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Oh my god, those phones are just gorgeous.

What did you do Elop!

wicket

2014-12-08 00:05

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

So is it an RM-784 or an RM-792? The photo that displays the device info seems to suggest that it's an RM-784. If so, what's the RM-792? Do these devices have codes names such as Rover/Dali/Lauta?

Are you able to get any info on the RX-71, RX-74, RM-660 or RM-690?

DirkDagger

2014-12-08 00:48

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

That's quite unusual situation. Unit IMEI sticker shows: RM-792.
FW version in smartphone is for RM-784. So... looks that must exist HW RM-784 Meltemi device and "original" Meltemi FW for this RM-792 HW.
Or maybe RM-784 was transformed in RM-792 on some stage. Who knows now)

Rusnak-COBRA

2014-12-08 07:37

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

RM-784 could be single sim version of the same. same as we see on ASHA phones.

DirkDagger

2015-01-08 14:36

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Hi Mates!
I was fast, as a blast!...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma...4js6o1_400.png
I took a few more pictures that would be uploaded here in the nearest time.
Also, I made a disk image of 2GB MicroSD that was in the Unit. My Win8.1 didn't want to read it and ask abt full format. (Looks this MicroSD was already wiped in Unit). So, I just make a dump using R-Studio_v7.5_Build_156292. U can Just open a dump with this tool and make recover of files from it with way U want. Waiting for your feedbacks abt all of this. Hope, anyone can find something usefull and write abt it. As I already checked, it contents various logs, some media files, and etc...

http://my-files.ru/0jvd2z

juiceme

2015-01-08 22:21

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

A little digging around the filesystem:

Code:

meltemi-release:    0.0.01

meltemi-version_id: 12w02e

meltemi-platform:   clipr

meltemi-build_id:   0.0.01.12w02e

meltemi-timestamp:  This image was generated on:

                    Fri Jan 13 14:26:59 UTC 2012

Forgot to say;

It has kernel version 3.0.1.11
The display is using Wayland
UI is based on QML
Javascript is used all over the place

DirkDagger

2015-01-09 05:25

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

eekkelund

2015-01-09 07:56

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirkDagger (Post 1455983)

So..., Here We Go. :)
Extended Review On Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased] SmartPhone:
...
N-Joy. :)

Thank you! Is it possible to have OS introduction video?:)

www.rzr.online.fr

2015-01-13 22:38

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1455964)

The display is using Wayland
UI is based on QML
Javascript is used all over the place

Doesnt this sound like an other phone platform ? glad to know this wasnt all thrashed then

szymeczek34

2015-01-13 23:00

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

This could really be a nice platform! Could you please upload a videotour of the OS?

juiceme

2015-01-14 06:36

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.rzr.online.fr (Post 1456465)

Doesnt this sound like an other phone platform ? glad to know this wasnt all thrashed then

Yes, I was surprised to see that the device indeed seems to have been continuation of the Harmattan platform and in a way a kind of bridge product towards what became SFOS on MER.

wicket

2015-01-19 03:47

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1455964)

A little digging around the filesystem:

Code:

meltemi-release:    0.0.01

meltemi-version_id: 12w02e

meltemi-platform:   clipr

meltemi-build_id:   0.0.01.12w02e

meltemi-timestamp:  This image was generated on:

                    Fri Jan 13 14:26:59 UTC 2012

Forgot to say;

It has kernel version 3.0.1.11
The display is using Wayland
UI is based on QML
Javascript is used all over the place

I've been poking around too and also discovered the following:

Appears to be based on MeeGo 1.1.80 (reported by /etc/issue.net).
Uses RPM and ZYpp.
Packages are armv7hl.
Uses System V init.
Uses Qt 5.
Uses standard GNU programs (i.e. no BusyBox).
The web browser is called Slickrock, is QML based and uses QtWebKit.
Couldn't find any indication that it uses Aegis but it does have a refhashlist file.
Uses a Nokia proprietary compositor called Baldr.
Has X-Prot modules like N900/N9.
RPM spec files can be found under /.meta
I found a reference to an internal wiki at http://wikis.in.nokia.com/Meltemi (maybe juiceme can let us know if it still exists :)).

If you want to chroot into this on a Linux PC with QEMU, just copy /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static to /usr/bin of the Meltemi file system and QEMU will run automatically when you run the chroot command.

DirkDagger, you realise that whoever supplied you with this device is legally obliged to provide you with Meltemi's Linux kernel source code should you request it. It wouldn't hurt to ask for it. :D

wicket

2015-01-19 04:16

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

1 Attachment(s)

Here is the list of packages that were available in the ZYpp repositories (output of zypper pa). Installed packages are marked with an "i".

The udev-rules-nokia-n900 package makes me wonder if they had this running on the N900.

juiceme

2015-01-19 11:44

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicket (Post 1457190)

[*]I found a reference to an internal wiki at http://wikis.in.nokia.com/Meltemi (maybe juiceme can let us know if it still exists :)).

It seems that it does have a DNS entry, but unfortunately I cannot reach that subnet. Could be it is inside MS now;

juice@ahma:~$
juice@ahma:~$ nslookup wikis.in.nokia.com
Server: 10.159.0.11
Address: 10.159.0.11#53

Non-authoritative answer:
wikis.in.nokia.com canonical name = newwikis.in.nokia.com.
Name: newwikis.in.nokia.com
Address: 147.243.14.159

juice@ahma:~$

v0id	2015-01-26 23:18

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

today i had a conversation at work with a colleague and he told me that he was a trainee @ nokia ulm and developed for a "successor meego OS".
when i asked him: "could this be the meltemi os?", he was kinda surprised that i even know about such things :D and answered "YEAH! it was calling meltemi!". of course i wanted to know as much as possible about everything he experienced. he told me that the OS was pretty much done. he also told me that there were several prototypes taken by employees as nobody gave a ***** anymore about anything since they already knew that they will be fired in some months. and he talked not about prototypes like the pics posted in this thread. he ment prototypes in "black boxes", means with provisional housing. he also mentioned some cool features like a back-cover that recognize touch-gestures for quick navigation. also he ment, that a buddy of him actually own such a prototyp (or at least owned back then)...i will ask him whether he could contact him for more information.

oh and he told me something funny too: the employees dont give a crap after they were informed about the cacelaton of meltemi and other linux projects, so they just watched movies and drank beer and ate chips or played card games some months before they were fired.

bluefoot

2015-01-26 23:56

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 1458354)

I heard similar things from a contact I used to have who lived and worked in Nuremberg, and had business (with Nokia) in Ulm.

He did however say that there was a last ditch effort to gather up all the remaining devices (and destroy them) before the office was finally shut down. Presumably as part of Elop's scorched earth, leave nothing behind strategy.

Maybe I missed it, but I never heard about Jolla courting ex-Meltemi developers or hiring m/any of them. Seems strange, given its apparent Meego / Harmattan base.

wicket

2015-01-27 02:48

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

More information on Meltemi that I stumbled onto:

http://mynokiablog.com/2014/11/25/my...d-safest-best/

http://mynokiablog.com/2014/11/27/my...ia-clipper-qt/

This is somewhat old now but I don't think it's been mentioned on TMO, at least not in this thread.

sony123

2015-01-27 08:41

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Great to see the OS and the device(s) seeing the light of the day!

The OS was more or less ready but the hardware integration certainly was not. The screen looks like 3.5", probably it is because that was what the first wave of Meltemi device(s) had. Some suggest the OS is extremely light-weight and use very up-to-date linux components wherever possible. I have never seen Meltemi OS in action but the description was it had N9-like application launcher, notification pull-down and event page probably like fastlane on Asha. Cannot wait to see the video tour!

DirkDagger

2015-02-22 20:58

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Good News. Looks I finally found HW RM-784.
I don't knew is it wiped or not, but HW build pretty high: Prototype B2.4 HWiD: 0240. If all would be good, will get it in the end of March 2015. :)

Wikiwide

2015-02-24 04:44

Re: Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased].

Curious question...

If anybody holds Meltemi-OS powered device in their hands... Wouldn't it be possible to request source code for open-source parts of Meltemi from Nokia-or-Microsoft? And maybe, in far away future, reverse-engineer the closed blobs?

Since Meltemi OS was intended as replacement for Series 40... How close are Meltemi prototypes to Nokia Asha phones?

Thank you. Best wishes.

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