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chemist 2013-05-24 00:55

[Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
I am currently updating the maemo facebook page and need some ideas for improvement.

Profile picture, posts, links and texts - help me out please!

Share your ideas, please!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Maemo/7855690587

panjgoori 2013-05-24 01:50

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
i never knewed there is a facebook page for Maemo and is also being updated. thanks for the link and cover picture is awesome.

juiceme 2013-05-24 06:32

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1346409)
i never knewed there is a facebook page for Maemo and is also being updated. thanks for the link and cover picture is awesome.

Jolla device as Maemo cover page :D
Suits me fine...

chemist 2013-05-24 09:02

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Can someone photoshop the maemo and the sailfishOS logos, please?

freemangordon 2013-05-24 09:59

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Could someone explain what exactly have Jolla (device) to do with Maemo's FB page and Maemo as a whole? Do we get paid to advertise them?

chemist 2013-05-24 10:56

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Don't be frustrated that we do not let the community die just because it got abandoned...

Because the company brand changed? All the MeeGo/Harmattan talk happens here why not have the sailfish/Jolla community with us as well?
We need to move on with things, that does not mean we abandon our past.
The company changed but the people are the same, their interest is the same, no?! If Nokia had continued their work it would be Maemo7/MeeGo2 and it would happen here... now the brand changed... and it is called Sailfish.

bingomion 2013-05-24 16:51

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
@chemist you on drugs?
Just rename the FB page to sailfish or whatever makes you feel good.

Seriously, sailfish is not even close to maemo :mad:
It might have a few people in it, but it's based on mer not maemo.

Your confused
maemo != meego != sailfish

Hey, don't worry about maemo dying...
Jolla/sailfish will most likely die before maemo does! :eek:

You've sold out to the latest and trendiest.
Poor maemo page :(

qwazix 2013-05-24 17:13

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
First of all it's not shellfish.


Secondly, Mer is MeeGo rebranded which is Moblin's base and Maemo's upper levels. It is as close to maemo as it can get, possibly even closer than whatever contraption Nokia would spew out as MeeGo 2. It's made by the same people, as chemist said, who did maemo and the old mer.

Don't stick to names, it's the code that matters. It might very well not succeed, but if we don't support them who will? They are some of this very community and they built the only mobile linux that respects upstream instead of letting MeeGo die. I just hope you are proved wrong.

qwazix 2013-05-24 18:04

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
After all think about why you do like maemo. Not because of what it is, because it frankly is a mess of a dependency spaghetti with parts of etch and sarge, closed binary blobs from nokia and GUI apps so tangled that Nokia didn't even bother to sort it out, and built a giant metapackage with everything as a dependency. We all like it because it is so close to what we want. It is so close to a full computer in the pocket, it has a proper package manager, a proper display server, support for GTK and Qt so that most of the desktop apps can be compiled, fully functional terminal and so on.

Mer ticks more boxes than maemo in this regard. It is a proper distribution with less castrated/patched tools and free from binary blobs. Apps might be closed source but that was always the case with maemo with the added "benefit" that removing the apps destroyed the system.

That is why I see that the obvious future of the mobile linux world is there.

And you can run hildon-desktop on mer if you so desire :)

Morpog 2013-05-24 18:33

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chemist (Post 1346479)
Can someone photoshop the maemo and the sailfishOS logos, please?

What do you want exactly?

qwazix 2013-05-24 19:22

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
My proposal for facebook page cover,
http://maemo.qwazix.com/photos/DSC_3014.JPG

along with some alternatives

http://maemo.qwazix.com/photos/DSC_2971.JPG
http://maemo.qwazix.com/photos/DSC_2998.JPG

panjgoori 2013-05-24 19:42

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
i agree with qwazix. 1st picture looks good.

Leinad 2013-05-24 20:53

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Why are you people so angry about development? Who was it, that developed Maemo? Those were the exact people, who are now continuing it as Sailfish.

They were the people working at Nokia coming to their bosses with an Open-Source-Linux-Idea. And who was is, that told them "Ok, but don't make a phone out of it" (until Maemo 5)? NOKIA

They were the people who loved Maemo, but had now had to collaborate with Intel and rebrand it as Meego and build in something stupid, they did not want, called Aegis. And who told them to do this? NOKIA

Who told them to use a non-replacable battery and no SD-card anymore? NOKIA

... and now these people are free to build a phone, they (and most of us) always wanted, and we should not support them?

The Wizard of Huz 2013-05-24 22:41

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Why not put the N900 there too with the sailfish phone in the top picture. Give the N900 with some typical Maemo screenshots 2/3 or 3/4 of the space, and the est to the Jolla device, as to say that that is the successor for the N900. Maemo is N900. To put hte Jolla there front and centre could be misleading to visitors. Is it Jolla? Maemo?

The Wizard of Huz 2013-05-24 22:50

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1346587)
My proposal for facebook page cover,
http://maemo.qwazix.com/photos/DSC_3014.JPG

The first picture has a good layout but a bit busy. Should use N900 in front very close and big and in full focus. A bit more in the distance, little bit out of focus the standing N9. And have the N900 with sceen brightness at full and N9 at lower brightness. As it is now the N9 is dominating with its bright screen and dominating tall standing stance.

peterleinchen 2013-05-24 22:54

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Exactly.
I have no probs with integrating Jolla/Sailfish. But keep Maemo in mind and front (at least now :)).

stickymick 2013-05-25 02:51

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Damn qwazix, learn some Photoshop.
Was wondering why this thread caused my N900 to shudder to a staggering crawl.

Now looking at it on my Ububtu laptop and discovered those images are absolutely massive :eek:

tzsm98 2013-05-25 03:42

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
I know what you mean. The full image opened up in my browser before shrinking down into the "click this bar to view full image" box. While it was loading I was thinking "what, just a gradient background?" And then the corner of an N900 appeared and then it popped into the box.

minimos 2013-05-25 05:30

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I agree with qwazix proposals, as those pictures are more representative of the Maemo heritage.
Then perhaps the selected photo could be stitched side by side with a picture of a Jolla device, representing the likely future.

freemangordon 2013-05-25 07:47

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
@qwazix - please, downsize those images a bit, it was for the first time to see my device using 500 MB of swap :)

Anyway, I am not against Jolla/Sailfish, the point is that it looks weird to me to have only yet-to-be released device as something representing Maemo. Why not put Ubuntu phone then, after all Maemo is Debian derivative :p ?

Wikiwide 2013-05-25 08:09

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Maemo isn't only Nokia N900. Yes, sure, Nokia N900 is the one and only Maemo phone. And N9/50 is the successor. With Jolla in the future. But don't forget about Nokia 770/N800/N810. Yes, it's a difficult task, to put seven devices into one image without making the banner clattered. So, goog luck to GIMPers. If requested, I can post a photograph of N950 into public domain. Unfortunately, most devices are ill-suited to making photographs of themselves, even with mirror's assistance, so it will be a 5Mpx photograph when I get to it.
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On the other hand, you don't need my photographic assistance, with the heavy artillery you have here.
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Best wishes.
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Per aspera ad astra...

bingomion 2013-05-25 08:55

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Im not saying dont support jolla.. I think its okay... Just let maemo stay maemo

qwazix 2013-05-25 09:50

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
500mb swap for 3 12mp photos? Anyway i resized them. Full scale photos are in a folder named fullsize in the same location for anybody that wants them.

by the way I refuse to learn Photoshop

qwazix 2013-05-25 13:46

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Most companies have strict rules about modifying their logos. See firefox for example

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/stylegu...efox/branding/

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://blog.mozilla.org/press/media-library/
For all permitted uses of our trademarks, you may not:
  • Alter our logos in any way.
  • Combine our logos with your own or any other logos, trademarks, or designs.
  • etc...

So let's not provoke any actions against us.

Morpog 2013-05-25 14:37

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http://abload.de/img/devices_logoxls8h.png

Alecsandru 2013-05-25 15:16

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nokia ,nokia ,nokia ,nokia, nokia , unknown , by the way who's manufacturing jolla's phones?

The Wizard of Huz 2013-05-25 17:39

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Combine this http://blackmoore.files.wordpress.co...900-frente.jpg
with the red N9 on the right on this photo http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....11-06-21-0.jpg

N900 front and the N9 a little more to the back.

stickymick 2013-05-26 07:48

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
I think it's a good idea to keep track of the Maemo - MeeGo - Sailfish timeline. After all they all hail from the same stable.
Depending how Sailfish develops over the coming years could mean you're supporting hundreds of devices eventually, so I think some obsolescence will need to come into it at sometime.

chemist 2013-05-31 23:38

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1346737)

Our new facebook page background!
Keep up the good work!

If you got device pictures of your own... I'd love to share some old (Nxxx) on facebook - any condition - maybe some dissected?

A new profile picture would be nice. As we cannot merge the logos for known reasons (I did not think about in the first place) someone might want to adapt his/her own sailfish into our maemo logo!

chemist 2013-06-04 13:23

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Morpog, did you gimp that picture or did you grep it from somewhere?
As http://www.jollausers.com/2013/06/sa...-for-sailfish/ cut out the maemo.org and reused it... well they link to us but still, not so nice.

panjgoori 2013-06-09 11:47

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1346587)
My proposal for facebook page cover,
http://maemo.qwazix.com/photos/DSC_3014.JPG

qwazix can you give me original copy of the quoted picture ? its not available in fullsize folder.

Morpog 2013-06-09 11:58

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chemist (Post 1349473)
Morpog, did you gimp that picture or did you grep it from somewhere?
As http://www.jollausers.com/2013/06/sa...-for-sailfish/ cut out the maemo.org and reused it... well they link to us but still, not so nice.

I made it from scratch. I noticed already that jollausers used it. Well, crediting isn't common nowadays anymore.

handaxe 2013-06-10 20:38

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1350701)
Well, crediting isn't common nowadays anymore.

Well it bloody well should be!

panjgoori 2013-06-13 14:15

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
isn't Maemo's facebook page is promoting/posting about Jolla more than N900/N9 ? every link they share or anything they post is totally related to Jolla. it's a Maemo page not Jolla i think.

tanago 2013-07-18 09:13

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1351730)
isn't Maemo's facebook page is promoting/posting about Jolla more than N900/N9 ? every link they share or anything they post is totally related to Jolla. it's a Maemo page not Jolla i think.

There isnt anything anymore to post about N900. Companies doesnt want to hear about porting their software to N900. Even Nokia doesnt answer queries about their own Maemo 5 device.
But yeah, why not, WP is far better than Linux hahaha. bloody traitors...
So yeah, better post something about its successor, than leave the page dead and look like the community is dead. :)

panjgoori 2013-07-18 17:11

Re: [Help needed] You are Maemo - drop your ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tanago (Post 1359768)
There isnt anything anymore to post about N900. Companies doesnt want to hear about porting their software to N900. Even Nokia doesnt answer queries about their own Maemo 5 device.
But yeah, why not, WP is far better than Linux hahaha. bloody traitors...
So yeah, better post something about its successor, than leave the page dead and look like the community is dead. :)

well there are many things to post on FB page. like latest community updates, apps announced for N9 and N900, the big thing for N900 like swipe which is also now available as WIP and other many things which happens daily. I don't think there are shortage of news here to post on FB page.


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