Introducing Maemo Talk
 

Today, we're launching Maemo Talk!

Think of it as itT v2.0. :D It's an ad-free site that will report on everything Maemo. It is not officially part of maemo.org nor affiliated with Nokia, but the site aims to showcase what's happening in maemo.org, as well as from other Maemo enthusiast sites.

It's still work in progress. There are a few more things we are revealing soon so, keep an eye on the site. Also, we need volunteers to blog about Maemo and the N900. Let us know if you want to be part of the team.

Check it out: http://maemotalk.com

Comments and suggestions welcome as always. :D

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Good looking site!

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Congrats reggie.

But why cant we have everything on maemo.org. Too many sites would make it more confusing and harder to follow the platform. I wish we had only one main site.

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It's actually good for exposure to have multiple sites. BUT-- it's also good if there's a certain level of partnership / integration / crosstalk as well.

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The truth of the matter is that the Maemo community is no longer just the people here on this site anymore. If this were a year ago, I'd completely agree, but we're going to see a TON more interest in Maemo and people are going to be creating separate sites anyways. Actually, there's already been a ton of new Maemo sites popping up all over the place when you think about it.

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That's uber-frustrating.
talk.maemo and maemo talk are different sites now? Are you kidding? :)

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I have to agree with Wazd that the name would be an interesting one; but still, good to see yet another Mameo-oriented site.

I wonder how well the new site plays on the N900., Seems like there's a good bit of play within the optical viewing range if resolution and physical size are taken into consideration. Should be interesting, and will check it out on my N97 as I get some time today.

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Wow, talking about fragmentation.

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Why? Just why?

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I agree that the more information the better.... but why cant we have all the information at one place? I am already wasting loads of time on talk.maemo.org, i really cannot afford to follow more sites

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I'm happy to see a blog site just for Maemo that isn't maemo.org related. Fragment away. Infact I would love to help, I'm more then happy to blog on anything Maemo related. Let me know if you want my help Reggie.

Great Looking Site BTW.

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Talk.maemo.org is a forum, Maemo Talk is a blog.

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I can see the reasoning behind starting a new Maemo site if
your first purchase is the N900 series. You probably don't care about any info on N800 and N810s.

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Sachin, when I say partnering, integration, etc, that degree of engagement tends to mean you won't have to follow multiple sites. Trick is to leverage web 2.0 technology. Planet Maemo is a great example.

But even then-- just pick the site(s) you're happy following and ignore the rest, right? ;)

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<shameless-thread-hijacking>
I have nothing against the concept either, but I sure wish that meanwhile the still-broken Minimalist theme for TMO mobile users were fixed :-)
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Site looks cool :) Congrats Reggie,

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You mean that all the forward thinkers here don't use a combination of RSS, IM and SMS to keep themselves abrest of whatever sites are talking about Maemo meanderings about the web?

And here I thought this was the advanced bunch... guess they just like that single-voice approach that other media have used throughout time ;)

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Maybe just make blog.maemo.org and blog there on all news maemo? That sounds nice.
P.S.: Yeah, btw, site looks pretty nice :)

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Maybe it isn't the end of the world after all.

Maybe it's just a website.

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Actually you CAN keep up to date with all these sites while only following maemo.org, that's what the aggregator is for.

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The site looks good but it makes my Firefox choke and produces lots of CSS errors. With this bad user experience, I'd rather not visit it often. :(

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Fixed. Thanks.

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What's the aggregator? :o

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What does that new site give that I can't already get from http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/ ?

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Well, if it's good to have multiple sites, why not start twenty more?

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Who doesn't have their own Maemo blog? Even I do, and it contains one post only ;)

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...generic...anti.....maemo.....talk......comment. .....that....should..... affect.......its.......existence.....



There, now I feel better.

:D

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There's more than a little confusion about this, reflecting maemo.org's makeup, I guess.

1) Maybe planet used to mean "the whole thing" and aggregator "something that brings different things or people together, into a total, mass, or whole" [pace encarta].

The maemo.org aggregation page, however, states that "maemo.org is for developers and power users" so "[w]riters specializing on end user topics are only accepted exceptionally."

2) I started a blog as a place to make material I'm creating for a printed book available online, without charge. The book is a guide to the N900.

Since I didn't want to presume upon my past association with Reggie, when he told me about starting the Maemo Talk blog I figured whatever I blog about Maemo or Nokia should be posted to my own blog (separate from the print-book content).

Since the blog went live last night, the first and only item there says no more than This is a new site, so there's no content here; visit maemo.nokia.com for information. Immediately four "thumbs down" votes were cast at planet.maemo in disapproval of this item.

It's hard to imagine a more innocuous blog post, so I take these votes to be ire at the aggregator including a site not aimed at developers and power users.

3) In another thread here, a blogger noted that he had reservations about the N900 (the topic of the thread) and had already posted them. He didn't repeat himself; he supplied a link to what was already online. For this, eleven (!) members of the maemo community excoriated him, calling him a spammer.

Aren't we being a little touchy when blogs on another site are condemned so readily? Since when has a non-commercial link to pre-existing content deserved this treatment?

To my eye, the karma tools — never especially pure — less and less useful as they are increasingly misused to mean "I agree with your opinion!" instead of "Hey, everybody! Take note: this is good stuff!" We debase ourselves, not just the forums of maemo.org, when opinions rule, not openness and information.

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Roger,

The thumbs down were probably because your post was so content-free. The "thumbs-up count" is used to decide if a planet article should go to the front page of maemo.org or not, and clearly a "Hello World" post should not go there.

Once you start posting real posts, you'll (probably) get a lot more thumbs-up on Planet.

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Duly noted.

I'll also change the feed so that any unsuitable posts (as well as content-free ones — I'm a natural at generating them) don't enter this planet's orbit.

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Great idea!

You first.

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Unless of course you ramble a lot about soft subjects.

:rolleyes: :D

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It's a nice maemo blog. but the white font in list of what's up is hard to see for me. Should change other color?

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This site is a bit er... functional, which i like but we need sites for erm.. you know... those pesky iPhone types. :)

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I wrote that text on 11/12/07, when maemo.org was the official point for Maemo developers, most Maemo related blogs were from/for developers and power users willing to dig under the hood, there were just a few sites devoted to end users like ITT or Tablet School and there was basically no regular media coverage.

Obviously the situation is totally different now. Thanks for pointing out that text. It's clearly obsolete at least since the day talk.maemo.org was born.

As commented at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...654#post318654 I believe that the proliferation of Maemo related sites is inevitable and actually good, specially when they survive the first boom of the N900 and grow along the Maemo platform and its user and developer base.

About Maemo Talk specifically, it's good to see these founders working together and I wish them best luck. I don't know if in their place I would have done the same (as opposed to, say, improve news.maemo.org) but I perfectly understand the personal motivations, specially considering the amount of (you name it) they had to digest in the recent past. If you have been a regular in the last 12 months you know what I mean.

I'm actually happy they didn't get burnt after long discussions and are still here, excited about the next steps of Maemo and contributing to the success of this community with their best skills and intentions.

I'm also happy to see how http://maemo.org/news (and not only Planet) are becoming more and more relevant aggregating any interesting source of Maemo news and allowing the community to filter and promote, helping newcomers, the media and occasional visitors getting a selection of the very best of Maemo today.

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Absolutely. The fact that my articles now receive more thumbs up than down tell me that the readership is increasingly open to more than hardware explorations and software development. That is good in general!

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I've been adding content at Maemo Talk all-throughout the day. When you get the time, do visit and let me know how you like them (bad, good, too short, etc). Thanks.