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deutch1976 2016-06-03 08:56

Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
May interest to someone :) (Meltemi OS & video)

http://www.nokiapoweruser.com/blast-...ands-on-video/

&

http://mynokiablog.com/2015/08/19/mn...tory-part-iii/

mosen 2016-06-03 09:27

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
It is going around since some days now. Staggering...
If i would be Stevens security advisor, this would be my incentive to negotiate a much higher fee :p

juiceme 2016-06-03 09:52

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
I wonder what the background of "888263" means?
Is it a way of identifying the prototype?

eekkelund 2016-06-03 12:04

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
I will leave here couple links as "collection":

Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 HWiD 0104 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased] (TMO thread)

Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B1 HWiD 0102 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased] (TMO thread) Meltemi FW files from this phone

Nokia RM-784/RM-792 PROTO B2.4 HWiD 0240 [Meltemi OS] [UnReleased] (TMO thread)

Mythbusting Nokia's Meltemi Part I, Part II, Part III (mynokiablog.com)
Very good article series!

Quote from muropaketti.com
Quote:

Originally Posted by muropaketti.com
The project that never officially existed: Meltemi

A top secret operating system was being developed at Nokia side by side with MeeGo in 2010-2012, code named Meltemi. Nokia never officially told about the project. It was an operating system targeted for more affordable smart phones and was never given a final name, but MeeGo Lite was a strong candidate.

Meltemi was meant to be 100% compatible with MeeGo and it would’ve ridden on MeeGo’s developer ecosystem and apps. The objective was to get the operating system to run at a constant 60 FPS and to get apps to launch in one second. One of Meltemi’s main features was data control in a database, which would enable a single call to the database to fetch a lot of information. There were massive difficulties with the development of Meltemi, such as tight schedules, firmware versions, the database and functionality of its features, new SoC and so on.

The project was finally scrapped on June 14th 2012, and Mary McDowell, the person responsible for the project, had to resign. There’ve been a lot of rumors on the Internet about Meltemi being almost finished. According to what we’ve gathered, Meltemi was far from being finished but we’ll have more on that in our next article, “Nokia Meltemi’s story” later in 2013.

In the book called "Operaatio Elop" (Operation Elop) there was chapter about Meltemi.
This is what I remeber after reading that book(year ago):
  • Meltemi phone would cost ~100e
  • 60fps
  • Apps should be opened less than 1s
  • Meltemi tablet was even more secret project(It was supposed to run all Android and somehow iOS apps)?

Nokia Clipper prototype video (youtube)

Picture collection of @DirkDaggers Meltemi Clipper prototypes (RM-784/RM-792)

eekkelund 2016-06-03 12:11

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1506889)
I wonder what the background of "888263" means?
Is it a way of identifying the prototype?

In @DirkDaggers protophone there is same kind of number "73700"
https://i.imgur.com/ADHjUu6.jpg

thedead1440 2016-06-03 12:25

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1506889)
I wonder what the background of "888263" means?
Is it a way of identifying the prototype?

Yup it's the last few digits of the IMEI

deutch1976 2016-06-03 13:42

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Meltemi or Air:confused:
What to choose? :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXaBlFNKbpk

pichlo 2016-06-03 15:04

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eekkelund (Post 1506895)
  • Apps should be opened less than 1s

I assume you meant in less than 1s. The alternative (for less than 1s) does not sound very attractive.

I needed to take a picture today and the only thing I had to hand was my Jolla. It took at least 12 seconds(!) to start the camera. I admit I did not time it with a stopwatch but after I waited for what seemed like ages I started counting in my head: "One elephant, two elephants..." The 12s was only from the point when I started counting.

ibrakalifa 2016-06-03 15:09

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
http://gph.is/1ma280c

Nokia @

mosen 2016-06-03 17:27

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1506909)
"One elephant, two elephants..." The 12s was only from the point when I started counting.

priceless :D
I love to learn cultural specialities on the fly.

Never thought about how other languages use to count seconds by word length. How do you count beyond 10?
We have composite words and start to count from 21 because most following numbers take one second if spoken slowly.
So it's "einundzwanzig, zweiundzwanzig, dreiundzwanzig,..."
I guess it's somewhat equal in finnish? anyone?

Back on topic, app perfomance on 1gb sailfish devices heavily depends on the amount of multitasked apps. Sometimes the camera comes up in 3 seconds, worstcase i had felt like ~15 seconds and it even was unresponsive for some more time when already upstarted.

On 2gb, in my case nexus 5 and tablet which i use side by side with jp1 the situation is much better.
Shame that good SoCs are locked down and exclusively sold to the giants... Jolla would have deserved a better start with the possibillity to have 2gb on jp1.

tmi 2016-06-03 18:25

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1506922)
Never thought about how other languages use to count seconds by word length.

Take your pick:
One one-thousand, two one-thousand...
One Mississippi, two Mississippi...
One elephant, two elephants...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1506922)
So it's "einundzwanzig, zweiundzwanzig, dreiundzwanzig,..."
I guess it's somewhat equal in finnish? anyone?

Yes and no. In this day and age, only the teens.

eekkelund 2016-06-03 19:37

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1506909)
I assume you meant in less than 1s. The alternative (for less than 1s) does not sound very attractive.

I needed to take a picture today and the only thing I had to hand was my Jolla. It took at least 12 seconds(!) to start the camera. I admit I did not time it with a stopwatch but after I waited for what seemed like ages I started counting in my head: "One elephant, two elephants..." The 12s was only from the point when I started counting.

Oh yes you are correct :) In less than 1s.
Meltemi's secret was that it killed the app every time it was swiped to "background". It could have only one app open at the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynokiablog.com
I have mentioned the mandatory 1 second app start time requirement often during this text. There is a reason: as said, there was no multitasking for QML apps in Meltemi. So I present you quite normal scenario:

My friend sends me a text while I’m browsing a web page. I’ll swipe away the browser and go to recents where I tap on the notification. Wait 1 second to open messages app. Decide to reply with a photo. Tap on “attach” icon. Wait 1 second to start Gallery. Pick a photo. Gallery closes. Wait one second to load back the message editor (it got killed when I went to Gallery, remember?). Choose to add another recipient. Tap the plus icon. Wait one second for contacts. Choose a contact. Wait 1 second that editor reopens. Press send. Messaging closes. Swipe up for “multitasking bar”, tap on browser. Wait 1 second for browser to load. Continue from where you were.
With proper transition animations those seconds are not as bad as they sound and the UI feels fluid.


deutch1976 2020-06-15 14:15

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
One more Meltemi article

https://nokiamob.net/2020/06/14/noki...as-golden-age/

Mivas_Greece 2020-06-16 09:35

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1567950)

I am not sure that Kataya runs on Meltemi. The prototypes we saw here have UI/icons that look like the Asha, Symbian and MeeGo.

Kataya is something else probably... Some say a custom Android to look like iOS a bit. hmm...

myname24 2020-06-20 12:10

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
https://tomarbisi.net/portfolio/halti/

Nokia Meltemi tablet design

hardy_magnus 2020-06-20 18:13

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by myname24 (Post 1567991)
https://tomarbisi.net/portfolio/halti/

Nokia Meltemi tablet design

to be honest I'm impressed with the design, it's something different and is that a full size usb port?

nonsuch 2020-06-21 09:55

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
^ Glorious design.
Like N9 as a tablet; seems tobe the same sort of hard plastic cover.
Pretty sure that is a full-size USB port.
The device is thick compared to current standards.

Boxeri 2020-06-22 05:38

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
That Rebel camera on the next page seems really interesting!

hardy_magnus 2020-06-23 16:46

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
i have read many articles but i am still scratching my head. maemo, meego, meltemi. i read somewhere that meltemi was for cheaper devices but why meltemi why not maemo5, why they kept reinventing the wheel twice thrice. i am panicking obviously :D

nonsuch 2020-06-25 19:00

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
^ all sorts of products are labeled in a seemingly illogical manner, esp. operating systems and graphics cards (seriously, the way Nvidia number their cards makes it impossible to even guess at which era they come from... smh).
Or Windows: 95...98...2000 makes sense so far? OK, enough of that: XP...Vista...7...8 good! we're back to sequential numbers! so Windows 9 is next, right? Right?

...somehow I don't think there'll be a Windows 11 next...

mosen 2021-12-15 20:19

Re: Nokia Meltemi OS & prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mivas_Greece (Post 1567956)
I am not sure that Kataya runs on Meltemi. The prototypes we saw here have UI/icons that look like the Asha, Symbian and MeeGo.

Kataya is something else probably... Some say a custom Android to look like iOS a bit. hmm...

Right, it is looking like a completely custom UI at least.
From a video that emerged just this week of a Kataya Walk Through:
https://twitter.com/ileios/status/1470062121656492037


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