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u7knv9h 2015-02-01 17:46

Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
is there any way to use maps and drive without having a nokia account? i have used drive for a while before wiping my phone (it was used and the old owner left his account in) and really liked it. i tried registering a nokia account, but it required way too many informations (why would they need my address?) and it's going to be suppressed by microsoft in 04/2015 anyway. i also don't feel like giving my personal info to microsoft/nokia

pmeuh 2015-02-01 19:16

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
just give fake...

coderus 2015-02-01 19:29

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
nobody was asked for my address when i used N9 maps

ekze 2015-02-01 20:26

you only need email to get Nokia account

u7knv9h 2015-02-02 06:06

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
uh, you're right, only email and phone are needed. i foolishly went to https://inventwithnokia.nokia.com/registration when i wanted to make the account.

tioubxancur 2015-02-02 12:19

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
But what will happen if I flash my N9 after everything is closed down.
Will we still be able to login to our Nokia accounts? If no, how do access maps then?

u7knv9h 2015-02-02 14:28

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
it seems like they have already shut it down
http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/supp...iscontinuation
at least, i'm not able to register (on my nokia n9 i get "Unknown error. Try again later. :522"), can anyone confirm this?

--

nevermind, i used invalid characters in the password (. ' =) and they aren't allowed. nokia accounts work fine (for now ;__; )

jmo707 2015-04-04 01:31

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
I can confirm this. I've trying to make an account for the last week at least, and I just can't. The message is always that the service isn't available...

=/

DeadHorseRiding 2015-04-04 02:55

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
No use for Harmattan, useful for Android(Jolla?), iOS and Windows Phone, see below

From:
HERE, a Nokia company <info@e.here.com>

26.03.20105


Changes in your sign-in for HERE apps


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https://e.here.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc...bQp9b_GXJJSwAM.

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https://e.here.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc...bQp9b_GXJJSwAM.

Vea el mensaje en Español
https://e.here.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc...bQp9b_GXJJSwAM.

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https://e.here.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc...bQp9b_GXJJSwAM.

Просмотреть сообщение на русском Языке
https://e.here.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc...bQp9b_GXJJSwAM.

Hello,

We’re writing to let you know that effective April 24th, 2015, you’ll no longer be able to sign in to HERE apps using your Nokia Account.This is due to recent changes
https://e.here.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc...bQp9b_GXJJSwAM.
in Nokia services.

After April 24th, any places that you saved with your Nokia Account on your device will remain on your device, and you’ll still be able to use them. However, those places can’t be synced with other HERE services.

If you’d like to save your collected places for future use, please register for a HERE account at account.here.com
https://e.here.com/pub/cc?_ri_=X0Gzc...bQp9b_GXJJSwAM.
and do a one-time import of your saved places. Imported places will only be shown on HERE apps that also use a HERE account (here.com, HERE on Windows 8, HERE on Windows Phone 8 and the new HERE apps on Android & iOS).

We hope you’ll continue to enjoy using HERE products
. If you have any questions, please contact us at appsupport@here.com.

Sincerely,

The HERE app team



now is your last chance – you’ll have up until April 24th to do so


A visual guide to migrating from a Nokia account to a HERE account

DeadHorseRiding 2015-04-04 03:20

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
How can I backup(/clone to other N9) all the downloaded Nokia map data on device from 2012?
About 13 GB data from /MyDocs/cities,
but what else?

Better older maps than nothing.

jmo707 2015-04-04 16:14

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Today I was able to create an account, but reading what you posted DeadHorseRiding, which I've already read on other sites, it would seem that from 24th on we won't be able to use Nokia Maps anymore, and thus won't be able to download new ¿maptiles? to it... I guess... ¬-¬

aspergerguy 2015-04-04 17:45

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
If any one wants to store map data here are latest links for both region and client index:

http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/1.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/2.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/3.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/4.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/5.zip

http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...ralAmerica.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...uthAmerica.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...223/Europe.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...223/Africa.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...4.223/Asia.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...liaOceania.zip

Whilst easy to drag'n'drop upon Windows, Mac users would need to use the recursive command as here to combine regions:
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Pool...er/td-p/794472

DeadHorseRiding 2015-04-05 11:09

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmo707 (Post 1465764)
Today I was able to create an account, but reading what you posted DeadHorseRiding, which I've already read on other sites, it would seem that from 24th on we won't be able to use Nokia Maps anymore, and thus won't be able to download new ¿maptiles? to it... I guess... ¬-¬

On N9 Device, Yes,
but no synchronisation of maps favourites on N9 any more

Direct Map Download on my N9 Device broken since about a year,
Download of single countries like Cuba (last) with NokiaSuite (Windows) works? - I do not know.

Try now at first time this from aspergerguy, 13,4 GB delivered with fullspeed.

jmo707 2015-04-05 19:20

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
The only problem is that the Nokia Maps interface won't let me see and choose which maps to keep and which not when downloading directly the map tiles. Do you know for what reason can this be?

DeadHorseRiding 2015-04-07 22:54

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmo707 (Post 1465835)
The only problem is that the Nokia Maps interface won't let me see and choose which maps to keep and which not when downloading directly the map tiles. Do you know for what reason can this be?

Today connected without any nokia account on N9 and in MS-Nokia-Suite with fresh installed latest Nokia Suite 3.8.54 (For Windows, more than 100 MB, now from Microsoft).
Tested on Win7, after installation connected N9 per usb-cable in sync mode - no problems.
Click Maps,
Wait some..... minutes, and than...
only Tunesia was missing, downloaded Tunesia 17,5 MB very fast.

Got really the latest maps from here?

Now got Tunesia Changes 2013?

Anybody already checked data actuality of data from suite compared to here?

jmo707 2015-04-09 00:21

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
I've tried that DeadHorseRiding. It never worked for me. But Maps on the phone did... once. After I've installed Nokia Maps Downloader/Extractor for N9/50 I can't make it work anymore. I've already purged it (the maps versions it offered where outdated), but now every time I want to download and install a map, it fails at the installation.

Is there any way to debug what is happening on the installation of maps...?

[SOLVED]

Starting Maps from the command line as user and then downloading maps worked right away!

DeadHorseRiding 2015-04-09 15:16

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmo707 (Post 1466137)
...After I've installed Nokia Maps Downloader/Extractor for N9/50 (the maps versions it offered where outdated),

Offers Version (seems hardcoded for Wget v0.2.5.103 in script downmaps2.sh) who already is shown in my "About" menu (see screenshot below)

OLD Path: http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...0.02.50.103/**
NEW Path: http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...0.02.54.223/**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmo707 (Post 1466137)
[SOLVED]
Starting Maps from the command line as user and then downloading maps worked right away!

Interesting, got here "segmentation fault", seems need reinstall maps app.

What is shown in your "About" menu, jmo707 after all?

Did you load only some maps or all of them?

v.2.54.223 is displayed now?

jmo707 2015-04-09 21:12

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
1 Attachment(s)
Here, I could install .223 version. Directly from Maps! I have only installed my country maps, but tried with another directly from the application (started from menu) and now it works :confused:

DeadHorseRiding 2015-04-11 21:43

Via Twitter: Nokia sells here?
Bericht: Nokia will Kartendienst Here verkaufen http://t.co/hy06VWBa5I #Kartendienste
time to save latest maps and collect 2 billions € via indigogo...

minimos 2015-04-12 06:33

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadHorseRiding (Post 1466413)
Via Twitter: Nokia sells here?
Bericht: Nokia will Kartendienst Here verkaufen http://t.co/hy06VWBa5I #Kartendienste
time to save latest maps and collect 2 billions € via indigogo...

And the news in English, as reported by Bloomberg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...us-on-networks

kureyon 2015-04-12 14:46

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Not much further to fall for Nokia :)

pishta74 2015-04-18 12:27

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
@coderus

Is there a possibility to patch Nokia Maps to us Here account?
Not talking about theoretical, but close to real possibility

Mr B 2015-07-17 22:31

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
I thought i'd try and get my maps updated to the point that is actually possible. So, i snatched the files linked to in post 12 and decided to have a peak... But, i'm not sure how i'm supposed to use them. Any advices before i screw up, and don't have any working GPS maps at all?
Well, frankly, the maps seam straight forward enough. Copy the maps for the country you want in to the corresponding folder on the phone. Which should be something like:
Europe.zip/SWE/ -> Nokia N9:\cities\diskcache\ClientIndex\SWE\

But what about the rather humongous files (well, phone size relatively speaking) 1-5. What do i do with these? I assume these are the actual maps, considering the size of the files, and the other stuff is just the names and locations of things. Do i just copy "everything" to the phone, and then head in to the maps app, and remove the maps i dont want, and hope it cleans out the unwanted files, and clears up the space again?

Thank you for your time and effort.
B!

chilango 2015-07-17 22:46

Simply download the maps directly with the app. For language actualize these in drive. It still works as described

Mr B 2015-07-18 05:41

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
No it doesn't. It states that i need a WiFi connection for downloading the maps, which i can confirm, it has. So im guessing it's not reaching the server where the maps are supposed to be?
But if the service supposedly still is there, then the problem might be something else... Ideas?
B!

chilango 2015-07-18 14:25

So in maps configuration activate online. It still works

aspergerguy 2015-07-18 17:29

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1477068)
Well, frankly, the maps seam straight forward enough. Copy the maps for the country you want in to the corresponding folder on the phone. Which should be something like:
Europe.zip/SWE/ -> Nokia N9:\cities\diskcache\ClientIndex\SWE\

Do i just copy "everything" to the phone, and then head in to the maps app, and remove the maps i don't want

Whilst ClientIndex may make logical sense, when you decompress the country/region .zip file there are (16) folders 0 - 9 and a - f with similar subfolders to be overwritten.

Please be aware that manually installing maps has the disadvantage that you will not get a listing of maps installed upon device, although they are present and functional

Mr B 2015-07-18 21:48

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chilango (Post 1477110)
So in maps configuration activate online. It still works

Again. No, it doesn't. At least not here. It keeps telling me i need to be connected over WiFi, which, since i AM, i took to mean it couldn't reach the server. If this isn't the issue, that means i got a different problem, which i might need help looking in to, but i have no idea even where to start...

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspergerguy (Post 1477124)
Whilst ClientIndex may make logical sense, when you decompress the country/region .zip file there are (16) folders 0 - 9 and a - f with similar subfolders to be overwritten.

Ooookay. I'm sorry, but you need to dumb it down a lot more for me to have any chance at understanding. There are 5 files (zip's) with 0-f, all of different sizes. All together these contain 13GB or so of files. How do i know which i need, and which i don't need, for a given set of maps? Currently i've got , sweden, denmark, finland and germany installed, i could very well live with "Europe", but 13GB seams like quite a bit more then the maps should need, so to speak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspergerguy (Post 1477124)
Please be aware that manually installing maps has the disadvantage that you will not get a listing of maps installed upon device, although they are present and functional

This actually wouldn't be much of an issue. It's weird that it keeps claiming that i have to connect to a WiFi to be allowed to download the maps, and i guess that could be the "proper" way to fix this, (map update) if the maps are still available, but currently i have no idea how. I intend to take the next weekend to make a full backup, export it, reload the phone, and add the backup back in, and see what it does, but god knows what else it breaks.
B!

aspergerguy 2015-07-19 09:08

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr B (Post 1477145)
How do i know which i need, and which i don't need, for a given set of maps? Currently i've got , sweden, denmark, finland and germany installed, i could very well live with "Europe

Can I turn this around and ask which European countries do you actually need as can break down the continent into individual countries? Whole of Europe gives you over a GB of data just for Russia. Incidentally even upon N9 64GB I have found it borderline to install entire "World Maps" and run the application even if you wanted too.

Mr B 2015-07-19 16:59

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspergerguy (Post 1477179)
Can I turn this around and ask which European countries do you actually need as can break down the continent into individual countries?

Could live with, Europe.
Bare minimum, or rather, preferred, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany, and Norway.
Checking the phone shows i got Norway, i just forgot it in the list above.
B!

aspergerguy 2015-07-19 17:55

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
[QUOTE=Mr B;1477204]
Bare minimum, or rather, preferred, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany, and Norway./QUOTE]

In the order of Denmark, Finland, Germany, Norway and Sweden

http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...54.223/218.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...54.223/221.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi....54.223/20.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...54.223/219.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...54.223/220.zip

Mr B 2015-07-20 02:34

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Thanks, will make a backup, and play around with it "soon".
B!

Mr B 2016-06-25 02:03

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Did use those to get it working. I'm sort of ashamed i never did say thanks.

Now, after a couple of resets on the phone, maps works, and downloads as intended. They just need to update them, since it is way out of touch with reality in a couple of areas where i use the GPS somewhat frequently.

Oh well.

Thank you all.
B!

n950 2017-09-25 08:33

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspergerguy (Post 1465769)
If any one wants to store map data here are latest links for both region and client index:

http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/1.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/2.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/3.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/4.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...2.54.223/5.zip

http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...ralAmerica.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...uthAmerica.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...223/Europe.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...223/Africa.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...4.223/Asia.zip
http://static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi...liaOceania.zip

Whilst easy to drag'n'drop upon Windows, Mac users would need to use the recursive command as here to combine regions:
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Pool...er/td-p/794472

Hello,

Where can i find all these files UPDATED to 09/2017?

Anybody have links?

How to find them?

I want to update my maps for drive app.

What are the last updated MAPS?

Thank you

claustn 2017-09-25 09:52

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1535081)
Hello,

Where can i find all these files UPDATED to 09/2017?

Anybody have links?

How to find them?

I want to update my maps for drive app.

What are the last updated MAPS?

Thank you

I guess there aren't any updated maps since is Nokia Maps is no longer maintened.

n950 2017-09-25 10:01

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RickTucker (Post 1535090)
I am all set to make a backup. Thanks for the help.

Regards,
Rick
Online cake delivery in Bangalore

You have maps working with N9 up to date? what date?
You can upload them?

n950 2017-09-25 10:02

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by claustn (Post 1535092)
I guess there aren't any updated maps since is Nokia Maps is no longer maintened.

Ok but is it possible to have compatible maps (August or September 2017) working with drive app on N9?

nieldk 2017-09-25 10:02

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1535081)
Hello,

Where can i find all these files UPDATED to 09/2017?

Anybody have links?

How to find them?

I want to update my maps for drive app.

What are the last updated MAPS?

Thank you

Latest version is what was provided:

static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi.com/map5/versions/versions.xml

n950 2017-09-25 11:41

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1535096)
Latest version is what was provided:

static.maploader.maps.svc.ovi.com/map5/versions/versions.xml

I try to open it with text editor but i don't understand this file.
Is the last version?

maploaderzip-00.02.54.223/1.zip

Show me inside file what is the last version?

nieldk 2017-09-25 12:16

Re: Maps and Drive without Nokia Account
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by n950 (Post 1535105)
I try to open it with text editor but i don't understand this file.
Is the last version?

maploaderzip-00.02.54.223/1.zip

Show me inside file what is the last version?

Like this :)


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